Scott Rodger (Maverick) leaks Morrissey information and email re: Bonfire / Miley via X (October 17, 2023)

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Maybe he has an axe to grind because in his own words there was a great album to be released and Morrissey f***ed it up by not listening to his management and is now blaming anyone but himself. Pretty justified in my opinion and apparently there are more mails which show Morrissey in an even worse light.

Reading the mail from Morrissey to Scott it makes it look like Morrissey wanted the Miley link on the album to shock the press and radio stations.
Yes, but it looks like he's kicking a man when he's down - never a quality in human beings that I have liked. And it looks like he's enjoying it. Which is worse.
 
Don't know about anybody else, but this Scott guy is really getting on my nerves. He's loving this.
I doubt he’s particularly invested, he’s merely explaining why he isn’t. He’s perhaps a little concerned that some susceptible fans are wasting their time, energy, and money on a fool’s errand.

What is clear is that the goodwill, that has gifted Morrissey the benefit of the doubt for 40 years, is perhaps misplaced. ‘Morrissey’ is clearly a complex network and some talented contributors have been wrongly maligned.

I think we do the project and ourselves a service, ultimately, by recognising and accepting when Morrissey is being ‘economical with the truth’.
 
Don't know about anybody else, but this Scott guy is really getting on my nerves. He's loving this.
Disagree as much as I can. He already said this was the problem moooonths ago. He is being reasonable here. Sure its not nice to leak but he had no other choice as this goes nowhere literally, possibly even now, with the information we have. The truth is annoying to some.
 
It totally baffles me, how some people can twist the facts around and actually accuse the other side of narcissism, attention-seeking, kicking a man who is down etc. I mean you feel sorry for a guy who caused the mess he is in himself, repeatedly lied about it blaming and attacking (!) others publicly and then accuse the guy who speaks up against it after months of being silent and leaving this mess uncommented. A guy who has actual evidence what had happened. If you feel sorry for M, feel sorry for him not realising how bad he has messed up and actually thinking he needs MC to get a hit, because that seems so out of proportion and there is clearly something very wrong with his perception of events and the effects. But not because somebody called out his lies with evidence?! The fans and the public have been lied to, now its apparent and people go after Scott Rodger because now they know they've been lied to?
 
It totally baffles me, how some people can twist the facts around and actually accuse the other side of narcissism, attention-seeking, kicking a man who is down etc. I mean you feel sorry for a guy who caused the mess he is in himself, repeatedly lied about it blaming and attacking (!) others publicly and then accuse the guy who speaks up against it after months of being silent and leaving this mess uncommented. A guy who has actual evidence what had happened. If you feel sorry for M, feel sorry for him not realising how bad he has messed up and actually thinking he needs MC to get a hit, because that seems so out of proportion and there is clearly something very wrong with his perception of events and the effects. But not because somebody called out his lies with evidence?! The fans and the public have been lied to, now its apparent and people go after Scott Rodger because now they know they've been lied to?
It's very simple. Because one 'side' is a great artist who changed the way we think about pop music. And the other is some guy from a management company. I'm gonna cut Morrissey some slack for that reason alone. Ultimately this all boils down to Morrissey not wanting to change a track that he recorded with another artist and that he thought was 'perfect' as it was. There is something admirable about that. Could he have handled this better? Of course. But we all make mistakes.
 
He says very clearly that he has a problem with men bullying women, unfortunately all men do not understand this and think it's ok to abuse women......like Morrissey

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He says very clearly that he has a problem with men bullying women, unfortunately all men do not understand this and think it's ok to abuse women......like Morrissey

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and yet fiona is ritually abused on here everytime she writes an article by almost everyone,not me, i like her.
 
It totally baffles me, how some people can twist the facts around and actually accuse the other side of narcissism, attention-seeking, kicking a man who is down etc. I mean you feel sorry for a guy who caused the mess he is in himself, repeatedly lied about it blaming and attacking (!) others publicly and then accuse the guy who speaks up against it after months of being silent and leaving this mess uncommented. A guy who has actual evidence what had happened. If you feel sorry for M, feel sorry for him not realising how bad he has messed up and actually thinking he needs MC to get a hit, because that seems so out of proportion and there is clearly something very wrong with his perception of events and the effects. But not because somebody called out his lies with evidence?! The fans and the public have been lied to, now its apparent and people go after Scott Rodger because now they know they've been lied to?
I agree, it's twisted. Just on Central the other day there was the woman CEO's pic with Morrissey's claim she is ruining his career, which a lie of epic proportions. But the truth is just so inconvenient for some people, I guess.
We've got this nutter Terrence whoever flying planes over Capitol, who knows what lengths he will go to, he won't stop harassing people on twitter. Morrissey is thrilled, obviously.
If he were a real man with any decency, he'd put a stop to all of this.
 
Just checked the Wikipedia article again for the album. Wonder why someone shuffled the running order around?

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and yet fiona is ritually abused on here everytime she writes an article by almost everyone,not me, i like her.
So? Maybe she should stop writing lies and people won't have an issue with her. She also went after Miley Cyrus today, so if she's going to dish it out she should be prepared to take it.
Seriously, Gordo, we do not talk about her every day and she is not 'ritually abused'. Are you honestly trying to compare snarky remarks about Fiona and her nasty articles to Morrissey siccing his fans on the CEO of Capitol? Fiona is just another women he uses and she obviously loves it, other women want to just get away from him.
 
So? Maybe she should stop writing lies and people won't have an issue with her. She also went after Miley Cyrus today, so if she's going to dish it out she should be prepared to take it.
Seriously, Gordo, we do not talk about her every day and she is not 'ritually abused'. Are you honestly trying to compare snarky remarks about Fiona and her nasty articles to Morrissey siccing his fans on the CEO of Capitol? Fiona is just another women he uses and she obviously loves it, other women want to just get away from him.
I saw fiona tweet yesterday, saying Miley could have told Morrissey that she wouldn’t want to be named. Is that what you’re talking about because i don’t see that as “going after her” imo
 
So? Maybe she should stop writing lies and people won't have an issue with her. She also went after Miley Cyrus today, so if she's going to dish it out she should be prepared to take it.
Seriously, Gordo, we do not talk about her every day and she is not 'ritually abused'. Are you honestly trying to compare snarky remarks about Fiona and her nasty articles to Morrissey siccing his fans on the CEO of Capitol? Fiona is just another women he uses and she obviously loves it, other women want to just get away from him.
GB won’t like you posting facts.
He’s another one who like the new fans Marianne, Trina and the rest of that list lot who will defend anything Morrissey says. They will also like anything he likes. And they all adore all the covers he sings. And the covers have been on wish lists to hear. It’s all about being noticed.
As tragic as it sounds.
And you’re 100% right about FiDo, she’s appalling in all she does, and says.
All are part of the problem.
Life was a lot simpler once.

True to you Mozi babe 🤗
 
I saw fiona tweet yesterday, saying Miley could have told Morrissey that she wouldn’t want to be named. Is that what you’re talking about because i don’t see that as “going after her” imo
I disagree, it's a bitchy, sarcastic post she did not have to make because she has no idea what happened. And this is what I mean about her, she jumps into the fray like the ignorant little sycophant she is and then people are surprised when there is blowback.
 
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It's very simple. Because one 'side' is a great artist who changed the way we think about pop music. And the other is some guy from a management company. I'm gonna cut Morrissey some slack for that reason alone. Ultimately this all boils down to Morrissey not wanting to change a track that he recorded with another artist and that he thought was 'perfect' as it was. There is something admirable about that. Could he have handled this better? Of course. But we all make mistakes.
You cannot be naive enough to think Morrissey's motivation to keep MC's vocals on such a pedestrian, mediocre track was for artistic purposes.
 

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