Nah, she didn't think I meant eco-friendly. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

It's the same with the "Could I have an espresso macchiato to go, please?" and the barista asking:"Would you like that to go?" :rolleyes:

Sometimes I avenge these things. The people at the Macforum manage to completely break me every time, but the last time I fought back! :D
I needed a new cable for my MacBook. The store was empty, I was the only customer, and there were about five staff members hanging around, looking bored. So I walked up to the guy behind the counter and gave him my cable and said: "Hi, I need a cable like this one, please!" He yawned, pointed towards a touch pad next to the door and informed me that I had to sign in first. So I said: "But I'm the only customer in here, can't you just help me without me signing in?" So he went like, nah standard procedure blah blah, eyeroll, everyone is asked to sign in...

Reluctantly, and because I needed that cable, I went and "signed in" (I signed in as Lili von Hohenlohe) and was informed by a display on the wall that I am now first in line and a member of staff would attend to me shortly. So after about fifteen more minutes of the staff hanging around looking bored and no other customer in sight there was a pling-sound, and the guy behind the counter called out into an empty (except for me) store: "Lili! Is Lili there?" So I walked back up to the counter, smiled and said: "Yes, hi, I am Lili", so he looked at me and said: "but...but...you don't look... like..."

So rather assertively I replied: "Do you have a problem with that?"

He was really embarrassed and apologised. :lbf::angry:
Well customer service is hard. I'd be easy on the person who asked if you'd like your coffee to go despite you already specifying you wanted it to go. They were probably bored out of their mind and on autopilot. It might have been one of their regular questions that they ask and without them realizing it you preempted them. When you see so many people in a day as they are likely to see, they stop being people and instead just become units of unpleasant sensory data.

The people at the apple store though just sound like lazy jobsworths. I would've written my name as Klaus kinski!

What annoys me is when I go to get a coffee and the barista remembers what I usually order and so just pours it for me without my even asking. What if I wanted something different this time? What if I wanted a different size? Next time I should say "sorry, I actually wanted a vanilla frappuccino!" or something like that! Then maybe I'll get the coffee for free since it's already been poured!
 
You mean the signature gif? Do you want it back? I could get it back. I miss it, too!

BTW, I've been meaning to ask you why you have a Black Lives Matter avatar? :D
Yes, I meant the signature gif! 🤩 He was so joyful and proud in that gif - but the reason I loved that gif for you the most of all, is because of how ebullient he was! Were you bored of him? Whenever you would occasionally be back in here for a visit with Mister Mistoffelees’ ta-das and with his high-kicks and his hi-jinks - well they were the only ebullient moments of anything I’ve ever been exposed to in here at all! Did you get sick of him? I don’t know… how could you get sick of him, if you thought my idea to go see Cats stoned was such a GREAT idea! :lbf:

I can’t remember exactly when it started, maybe the end of last year? Or maybe the beginning of this year? I can’t remember, but anyway, at first i just wasn’t myself at all for a little while and I was feeling very sad, and so I was having a real I wear black on the outside because black is how I feel on the inside moment. That was what started it all initially, lol. And then I can’t remember, but after a few days or after a week or two, I changed back to how it was originally.

And then I still felt so unspeakably, totally dis-aligned and misaligned with that image. and with any image of anything that I would normally like or relate to - that I felt like a pitch black square was the only thing I could possibly even conceive of, to choose to visually represent me, because it’s the only pictorial representation that communicates that it offers absolutely nothing, and takes absolutely nothing.

It’s the only avatar with no artifice. There is no artifice, because I am the precipice. It’s an avatar that offers no explanation for who or what I am, because ultimately, I will never offer any artifice, or any explanation. There is no prequel to me. There is no sequel to me.

I can be anything anyone wants me to me be. I learned how to play that game a very long time ago. But I will still only ever be me. In all my incarnations. The blackness can be an abyss. It can be my depths. I am the abyss. Or it could just be the walls all around me, through which no one can see in.

A black hole is everything, and it is nothing. I am also everything and nothing. It’s the future, and it’s the past, all rolled into one, where time loses all meaning, and all that exists is the self. A black square is also isolating, and isolative. It is dependent on nothing. It calls for no one. It may be a thing, it may be real, or it may be nothing at all. It may be nothing more than a close up of a small piece of silk from the hem of my dress.

So, NO! I was not quite going for Black Lives Matter! :lbf: Silly little goose! :lbf:

In art, there is a movement called Suprematism, founded in Russia by Kazemir Malevich around 1915. It focuses on basic geometric forms (circles, squares, lines, rectangles) and it emphasizes the supremacy of pure artistic feeling over the depiction of objects.

Suprematism is considered one of the key movements of abstract art, influencing later developments in modern and contemporary art. I am interested in this less as an art movement, and more as a concept as it specifically applies to my own life. The supremacy of pure artistic feeling not over the depiction of objects for me - but above and over all.

I was thinking of all of this when I chose to remain as a perfect black square for the moment.

In Suprematism, Art shouldn’t represent reality. I also don’t represent reality. Not here, and not anywhere else, either. Malevich sought to free art from the burden of reality, allowing it to exist so that it could live independently as a creation of the artist’s mind. I also only exist as a creation of my own mind. Because in fact, anything outside of that - couldn’t matter any less to me.

And so I had this black square, which felt vital and critically necessary, because i couldn’t represent anything else, and also I didn’t want to.

But then a month or two or whenever later, I remembered Malevich’s most famous painting, which is also the most famous and iconic painting of Suprematism, called “Black Square”. I hadn’t thought of it immediately because his black square looks very different to my black square - his black square is on a white background that looks cream to me, and the black also not completely solid. It’s not even a very deep-hued black. It doesn’t immediately convey opacity, as the first thought you might have about it when looking at it. It’s very different.

It has white cracks surfacing all across it, as though all the white lines are tracing routes across a globe. Or maybe, they’re what cracks on a heart would look like - if everything that leaves a mark on us rose to the surface so that we could see all the demarcations left behind.

In any case, when I finally remembered it, I immediately recognized with such obvious familiarity, the intriguingly similar parallels underlying the use, and also the intended underlying representation, of each of our respective black squares. Lol!

Suprematism had a profound impact on the development of modern art, influencing movements such as Constructivism and Abstract Impressionism - which is neither here nor there for me. But it did also play a crucial role in the development of 20th century avant-garde art - which is where my deeper loyalty lies, and what I’m more moved by.

Although completely foundational to it; the movement’s emphasis on geometrical abstraction is incidental to me. It’s a tool, used to make a point. And it drives the point home very well. What I care about the most in all of this, is the exploration of pure artistic feeling. And the emphasis on the geometric abstraction and on the exploration of pure artistic feeling from this movement are what subsequently paved the way for future artists to experiment with non-representational forms and very conceptual approaches to art.

Moving away for a moment from visual arts to writers, you’re probably somewhat familiar with Jorge Luis Borges, yes? I imagine at least in name. He’s an Argentinian writer who became one of the most significant literary figures of the 20th century, famous for his works that delve into abstract and philosophical themes. His works often explore complex themes such as infinity, labyrinths, and the nature of reality. His short stories are known for their abstract and philosophical nature, delving into concepts such as infinite structures and abstract worlds.

I’m just using him as an example, I’m not in any way exclusively impassioned or devoted to his work, but conceptually, certainly these are the types of abstractions and symbolic themes in modern art and literature that draw me in, and which pull me close and hold me in place.

But nothing is static, not even for a moment. Not ever. And certainly neither am I.

Individuality, rebellion, and creativity - in me, and around me - are my oxygen. But these things have to have a foundation of substance underneath, in order to have any value.

So, ummmm, YES. We could definitely say that I was NOT exactly going for Black Lives Matter.

NOW what the heck am I going do about my beautiful black abyss, bunbun!! :lbf:

“Reality is not always probable, or likely“

 
Yes, I meant the signature gif! 🤩 He was so joyful and proud in that gif - but the reason I loved that gif for you the most of all, is because of how ebullient he was! Were you bored of him? Whenever you would occasionally be back in here for a visit with Mister Mistoffelees’ ta-das and with his high-kicks and his hi-jinks - well they were the only ebullient moments of anything I’ve ever been exposed to in here at all! Did you get sick of him? I don’t know… how could you get sick of him, if you thought my idea to go see Cats stoned was such a GREAT idea! :lbf:

I can’t remember exactly when it started, maybe the end of last year? Or maybe the beginning of this year? I can’t remember, but anyway, at first i just wasn’t myself at all for a little while and I was feeling very sad, and so I was having a real I wear black on the outside because black is how I feel on the inside moment. That was what started it all initially, lol. And then I can’t remember, but after a few days or after a week or two, I changed back to how it was originally.

And then I still felt so unspeakably, totally dis-aligned and misaligned with that image. and with any image of anything that I would normally like or relate to - that I felt like a pitch black square was the only thing I could possibly even conceive of, to choose to visually represent me, because it’s the only pictorial representation that communicates that it offers absolutely nothing, and takes absolutely nothing.

It’s the only avatar with no artifice. There is no artifice, because I am the precipice. It’s an avatar that offers no explanation for who or what I am, because ultimately, I will never offer any artifice, or any explanation. There is no prequel to me. There is no sequel to me.

I can be anything anyone wants me to me be. I learned how to play that game a very long time ago. But I will still only ever be me. In all my incarnations. The blackness can be an abyss. It can be my depths. I am the abyss. Or it could just be the walls all around me, through which no one can see in.

A black hole is everything, and it is nothing. I am also everything and nothing. It’s the future, and it’s the past, all rolled into one, where time loses all meaning, and all that exists is the self. A black square is also isolating, and isolative. It is dependent on nothing. It calls for no one. It may be a thing, it may be real, or it may be nothing at all. It may be nothing more than a close up of a small piece of silk from the hem of my dress.

So, NO! I was not quite going for Black Lives Matter! :lbf: Silly little goose! :lbf:

In art, there is a movement called Suprematism, founded in Russia by Kazemir Malevich around 1915. It focuses on basic geometric forms (circles, squares, lines, rectangles) and it emphasizes the supremacy of pure artistic feeling over the depiction of objects.

Suprematism is considered one of the key movements of abstract art, influencing later developments in modern and contemporary art. I am interested in this less as an art movement, and more as a concept as it specifically applies to my own life. The supremacy of pure artistic feeling not over the depiction of objects for me - but above and over all.

I was thinking of all of this when I chose to remain as a perfect black square for the moment.

In Suprematism, Art shouldn’t represent reality. I also don’t represent reality. Not here, and not anywhere else, either. Malevich sought to free art from the burden of reality, allowing it to exist so that it could live independently as a creation of the artist’s mind. I also only exist as a creation of my own mind. Because in fact, anything outside of that - couldn’t matter any less to me.

And so I had this black square, which felt vital and critically necessary, because i couldn’t represent anything else, and also I didn’t want to.

But then a month or two or whenever later, I remembered Malevich’s most famous painting, which is also the most famous and iconic painting of Suprematism, called “Black Square”. I hadn’t thought of it immediately because his black square looks very different to my black square - his black square is on a white background that looks cream to me, and the black also not completely solid. It’s not even a very deep-hued black. It doesn’t immediately convey opacity, as the first thought you might have about it when looking at it. It’s very different.

It has white cracks surfacing all across it, as though all the white lines are tracing routes across a globe. Or maybe, they’re what cracks on a heart would look like - if everything that leaves a mark on us rose to the surface so that we could see all the demarcations left behind.

In any case, when I finally remembered it, I immediately recognized with such obvious familiarity, the intriguingly similar parallels underlying the use, and also the intended underlying representation, of each of our respective black squares. Lol!

Suprematism had a profound impact on the development of modern art, influencing movements such as Constructivism and Abstract Impressionism - which is neither here nor there for me. But it did also play a crucial role in the development of 20th century avant-garde art - which is where my deeper loyalty lies, and what I’m more moved by.

Although completely foundational to it; the movement’s emphasis on geometrical abstraction is incidental to me. It’s a tool, used to make a point. And it drives the point home very well. What I care about the most in all of this, is the exploration of pure artistic feeling. And the emphasis on the geometric abstraction and on the exploration of pure artistic feeling from this movement are what subsequently paved the way for future artists to experiment with non-representational forms and very conceptual approaches to art.

Moving away for a moment from visual arts to writers, you’re probably somewhat familiar with Jorge Luis Borges, yes? I imagine at least in name. He’s an Argentinian writer who became one of the most significant literary figures of the 20th century, famous for his works that delve into abstract and philosophical themes. His works often explore complex themes such as infinity, labyrinths, and the nature of reality. His short stories are known for their abstract and philosophical nature, delving into concepts such as infinite structures and abstract worlds.

I’m just using him as an example, I’m not in any way exclusively impassioned or devoted to his work, but conceptually, certainly these are the types of abstractions and symbolic themes in modern art and literature that draw me in, and which pull me close and hold me in place.

But nothing is static, not even for a moment. Not ever. And certainly neither am I.

Individuality, rebellion, and creativity - in me, and around me - are my oxygen. But these things have to have a foundation of substance underneath, in order to have any value.

So, ummmm, YES. We could definitely say that I was NOT exactly going for Black Lives Matter.

NOW what the heck am I going do about my beautiful black abyss, bunbun!! :lbf:

“Reality is not always probable, or likely“


Have fun reading this, bun bun! LOL
 
Well customer service is hard. I'd be easy on the person who asked if you'd like your coffee to go despite you already specifying you wanted it to go. They were probably bored out of their mind and on autopilot. It might have been one of their regular questions that they ask and without them realizing it you preempted them. When you see so many people in a day as they are likely to see, they stop being people and instead just become units of unpleasant sensory data.

The people at the apple store though just sound like lazy jobsworths. I would've written my name as Klaus kinski!

What annoys me is when I go to get a coffee and the barista remembers what I usually order and so just pours it for me without my even asking. What if I wanted something different this time? What if I wanted a different size? Next time I should say "sorry, I actually wanted a vanilla frappuccino!" or something like that! Then maybe I'll get the coffee for free since it's already been poured!

Yeah, I agree, customer service is hard. I don't like it when people treat service staff badly. I went on a date once with someone who was such a jerk to the poor waiter at the restaurant - that’s a huge red flag. I went home alone. But I also can’t stand customer service staff treating customers badly. I mean, the guy at the Apple store … making me walk back to the entrance in order “sign in” so that I’m allowed to buy an overpriced cable from him ... that was just shitty. But I guess the discourteous attitude is part of the Apple brand. OMG, Lufthansa are even worse, though. Good God. On the way home from Italy (whenever I go anywhere I have to always travel with Lufthansa through Frankfurt because Sweden’s second biggest city doesn’t have ANY direct flights to anywhere apart from Istanbul) the first flight from Milan was delayed so we missed the connecting flight in Frankfurt and had to wait eight (!!!) hours for the 22:15 flight and NO customer services anywhere, no apologies, no compensation, no information, no nothing and THEN, on top of everything, that flight was an hour late as well, and when everyone was finally allowed to board the plane, the flight attendant makes the announcement: “If you all hurry up a bit we might be able to get out of here today”. After NINE hours of hanging around Frankfurt airport because of their f***-ups THAT’s how they talk to us? For a moment there I was contemplating doing the Morrissey plane clapping thingie, but then I really wanted to get home so I decided to behave. And also, I do not want to fall out of favour with Lufthansa or end up on their no-fly list because - unfortunately - they are the only connection between this godforsaken town and the rest of the world. But how is one supposed to not lose it in situations like this?

The barista remembering what you usually order probably likes you and thinks you're gorgeous!
 
Yes, I meant the signature gif! 🤩 He was so joyful and proud in that gif - but the reason I loved that gif for you the most of all, is because of how ebullient he was! Were you bored of him? Whenever you would occasionally be back in here for a visit with Mister Mistoffelees’ ta-das and with his high-kicks and his hi-jinks - well they were the only ebullient moments of anything I’ve ever been exposed to in here at all! Did you get sick of him? I don’t know… how could you get sick of him, if you thought my idea to go see Cats stoned was such a GREAT idea! :lbf:

I can’t remember exactly when it started, maybe the end of last year? Or maybe the beginning of this year? I can’t remember, but anyway, at first i just wasn’t myself at all for a little while and I was feeling very sad, and so I was having a real I wear black on the outside because black is how I feel on the inside moment. That was what started it all initially, lol. And then I can’t remember, but after a few days or after a week or two, I changed back to how it was originally.

And then I still felt so unspeakably, totally dis-aligned and misaligned with that image. and with any image of anything that I would normally like or relate to - that I felt like a pitch black square was the only thing I could possibly even conceive of, to choose to visually represent me, because it’s the only pictorial representation that communicates that it offers absolutely nothing, and takes absolutely nothing.

It’s the only avatar with no artifice. There is no artifice, because I am the precipice. It’s an avatar that offers no explanation for who or what I am, because ultimately, I will never offer any artifice, or any explanation. There is no prequel to me. There is no sequel to me.

I can be anything anyone wants me to me be. I learned how to play that game a very long time ago. But I will still only ever be me. In all my incarnations. The blackness can be an abyss. It can be my depths. I am the abyss. Or it could just be the walls all around me, through which no one can see in.

A black hole is everything, and it is nothing. I am also everything and nothing. It’s the future, and it’s the past, all rolled into one, where time loses all meaning, and all that exists is the self. A black square is also isolating, and isolative. It is dependent on nothing. It calls for no one. It may be a thing, it may be real, or it may be nothing at all. It may be nothing more than a close up of a small piece of silk from the hem of my dress.

So, NO! I was not quite going for Black Lives Matter! :lbf: Silly little goose! :lbf:

In art, there is a movement called Suprematism, founded in Russia by Kazemir Malevich around 1915. It focuses on basic geometric forms (circles, squares, lines, rectangles) and it emphasizes the supremacy of pure artistic feeling over the depiction of objects.

Suprematism is considered one of the key movements of abstract art, influencing later developments in modern and contemporary art. I am interested in this less as an art movement, and more as a concept as it specifically applies to my own life. The supremacy of pure artistic feeling not over the depiction of objects for me - but above and over all.

I was thinking of all of this when I chose to remain as a perfect black square for the moment.

In Suprematism, Art shouldn’t represent reality. I also don’t represent reality. Not here, and not anywhere else, either. Malevich sought to free art from the burden of reality, allowing it to exist so that it could live independently as a creation of the artist’s mind. I also only exist as a creation of my own mind. Because in fact, anything outside of that - couldn’t matter any less to me.

And so I had this black square, which felt vital and critically necessary, because i couldn’t represent anything else, and also I didn’t want to.

But then a month or two or whenever later, I remembered Malevich’s most famous painting, which is also the most famous and iconic painting of Suprematism, called “Black Square”. I hadn’t thought of it immediately because his black square looks very different to my black square - his black square is on a white background that looks cream to me, and the black also not completely solid. It’s not even a very deep-hued black. It doesn’t immediately convey opacity, as the first thought you might have about it when looking at it. It’s very different.

It has white cracks surfacing all across it, as though all the white lines are tracing routes across a globe. Or maybe, they’re what cracks on a heart would look like - if everything that leaves a mark on us rose to the surface so that we could see all the demarcations left behind.

In any case, when I finally remembered it, I immediately recognized with such obvious familiarity, the intriguingly similar parallels underlying the use, and also the intended underlying representation, of each of our respective black squares. Lol!

Suprematism had a profound impact on the development of modern art, influencing movements such as Constructivism and Abstract Impressionism - which is neither here nor there for me. But it did also play a crucial role in the development of 20th century avant-garde art - which is where my deeper loyalty lies, and what I’m more moved by.

Although completely foundational to it; the movement’s emphasis on geometrical abstraction is incidental to me. It’s a tool, used to make a point. And it drives the point home very well. What I care about the most in all of this, is the exploration of pure artistic feeling. And the emphasis on the geometric abstraction and on the exploration of pure artistic feeling from this movement are what subsequently paved the way for future artists to experiment with non-representational forms and very conceptual approaches to art.

Moving away for a moment from visual arts to writers, you’re probably somewhat familiar with Jorge Luis Borges, yes? I imagine at least in name. He’s an Argentinian writer who became one of the most significant literary figures of the 20th century, famous for his works that delve into abstract and philosophical themes. His works often explore complex themes such as infinity, labyrinths, and the nature of reality. His short stories are known for their abstract and philosophical nature, delving into concepts such as infinite structures and abstract worlds.

I’m just using him as an example, I’m not in any way exclusively impassioned or devoted to his work, but conceptually, certainly these are the types of abstractions and symbolic themes in modern art and literature that draw me in, and which pull me close and hold me in place.

But nothing is static, not even for a moment. Not ever. And certainly neither am I.

Individuality, rebellion, and creativity - in me, and around me - are my oxygen. But these things have to have a foundation of substance underneath, in order to have any value.

So, ummmm, YES. We could definitely say that I was NOT exactly going for Black Lives Matter.

NOW what the heck am I going do about my beautiful black abyss, bunbun!! :lbf:

“Reality is not always probable, or likely“



It's been a terribly long day and I'm tired, and tomorrow is going to be the same, so I'll reply on the weekend.

On the subject of Mr Mistoffelees and Cats I just have to say, here and now - and totally unrelated to anything you've written - that one of the strangest realisations I had recently was that seeing Cats at the theatre made me happy and seeing suede live in concert made me sad. It used to be totally the other way round. :-/
 
Yeah, I agree, customer service is hard. I don't like it when people treat service staff badly. I went on a date once with someone who was such a jerk to the poor waiter at the restaurant - that’s a huge red flag. I went home alone. But I also can’t stand customer service staff treating customers badly. I mean, the guy at the Apple store … making me walk back to the entrance in order “sign in” so that I’m allowed to buy an overpriced cable from him ... that was just shitty. But I guess the discourteous attitude is part of the Apple brand. OMG, Lufthansa are even worse, though. Good God. On the way home from Italy (whenever I go anywhere I have to always travel with Lufthansa through Frankfurt because Sweden’s second biggest city doesn’t have ANY direct flights to anywhere apart from Istanbul) the first flight from Milan was delayed so we missed the connecting flight in Frankfurt and had to wait eight (!!!) hours for the 22:15 flight and NO customer services anywhere, no apologies, no compensation, no information, no nothing and THEN, on top of everything, that flight was an hour late as well, and when everyone was finally allowed to board the plane, the flight attendant makes the announcement: “If you all hurry up a bit we might be able to get out of here today”. After NINE hours of hanging around Frankfurt airport because of their f***-ups THAT’s how they talk to us? For a moment there I was contemplating doing the Morrissey plane clapping thingie, but then I really wanted to get home so I decided to behave. And also, I do not want to fall out of favour with Lufthansa or end up on their no-fly list because - unfortunately - they are the only connection between this godforsaken town and the rest of the world. But how is one supposed to not lose it in situations like this?

The barista remembering what you usually order probably likes you and thinks you're gorgeous!
No she just wants to make me feel redundant! 😔 I don't know how they all remember what i get, I don't even go in there that much! Maybe because all I get is a black coffee and its the easiest order of their day. (also i hate that starbucks STILL doesnt allow us to add our own milk and sugar! because i only like a TINY bit of milk and dont trust them not to pour in too much!)

Customer service being rude sucks too especially when it's in a situation where it's something you need, like in your situation needing to get home. Or like when I was at the pharmacist and I wanted to ask questions about iron and the pharmacist acted completely hurried and dismissive. maybe she was busy but thats too bad. she needs to be available to answer questions. i feel like im a lot nicer and more patient as a customer service employee as i used to be. i remember this one time i was being kind of rude and this customer was just trying to buy chips or something and he asked me "why are you being like this? im just trying to buy something", and i felt so bad to think that i might have ruined his day or something, so i always think about that when im in a bad mood and tempted to be rude to someone: do i really want to send them on their way feeling bad? around this time of year it becomes infinitely harder to live by that maxim though, because this is the time of year of the american cruise ships, and the american cruise ship passengers are a whooooooolllllle other kettle of fish. a whole other species almost!

my sisters a jerk to customer service staff too, which baffles me because she once worked in customer service and doesnt she have the ability to put herself in the emloyees place? or does she just lack the self awareness to see that she's being a jerk?

that would have been so awesome if you started clapping, bun bun! :lbf:
 
It's been a terribly long day and I'm tired, and tomorrow is going to be the same, so I'll reply on the weekend.

On the subject of Mr Mistoffelees and Cats I just have to say, here and now - and totally unrelated to anything you've written - that one of the strangest realisations I had recently was that seeing Cats at the theatre made me happy and seeing suede live in concert made me sad. It used to be totally the other way round. :-/
have you gone to any musical theatre shows since then, bun bun?
 
It's been a terribly long day and I'm tired, and tomorrow is going to be the same, so I'll reply on the weekend.

On the subject of Mr Mistoffelees and Cats I just have to say, here and now - and totally unrelated to anything you've written - that one of the strangest realisations I had recently was that seeing Cats at the theatre made me happy and seeing suede live in concert made me sad. It used to be totally the other way round. :-/
Why did seeing Suede make you sad? Was it because of their bad skin and bad hair?? The early singles were magical but I was never able to recapture the same feeling again, or even anything similar with a lot of stuff that came after.

Probably Mister Mistoffelees is also a very hard act to follow though!!! The solution is that you should probably try to plan your social diary a bit better, and maybe try and go see Ed Sheeran the week before you see Suede instead! I think then Suede wouldn’t make you as sad, bunbun!!

And then maybe Mister Mistoffelees to round things out on a jaunty high note (with whiskers!) at the end!! 😃
 
If there's such a thing as developing an "ick" for your favourite artists, I'm starting to feel it for Moz. I love the music, I still love his voice. I don't know if it's the tour cancellations or just the bleakness of recent years but when I see photos and what passes for 'updates' these days, I just feel a bit embarrassed. He has aged and looks so out of place half the time, with a 'band' that seems to be a revolving door. He uses photos that are 20 years old for his promo artwork, as though no-one will notice. After all this time, he still craves validation through the charts or through some C-list person wearing his T-shirt. I cringe when I think about Dodwell and the sycophants that he surrounds himself with. I'm embarrassed to recall the plane incident and the whole spectacle of silent, servile Damon, pathetically dragging bags and trolleys around the world. I just feel like I've lost connection, like nothing in the current Mozzerverse is recognisable anymore.
 
If there's such a thing as developing an "ick" for your favourite artists, I'm starting to feel it for Moz. I love the music, I still love his voice. I don't know if it's the tour cancellations or just the bleakness of recent years but when I see photos and what passes for 'updates' these days, I just feel a bit embarrassed. He has aged and looks so out of place half the time, with a 'band' that seems to be a revolving door. He uses photos that are 20 years old for his promo artwork, as though no-one will notice. After all this time, he still craves validation through the charts or through some C-list person wearing his T-shirt. I cringe when I think about Dodwell and the sycophants that he surrounds himself with. I'm embarrassed to recall the plane incident and the whole spectacle of silent, servile Damon, pathetically dragging bags and trolleys around the world. I just feel like I've lost connection, like nothing in the current Mozzerverse is recognisable anymore.
I can totally relate to this, I never thought I would ever dislike him
 
Still got lots of hair though!

not only genetics, but I believe David’s been meditating for a very long time. Meditation pays off, in the long run too.

Btw, my other post was pro-David. I think he does good work, and is an interesting cat, to say the least.
 
I think the way he’s talking got more exaggerated over time, possibly while he was doing his weather report and ‘today’s number is…’ series of videos on YouTube. I don’t see him doing all the hand gestures while he speaks anymore but maybe he still does that while in conversation and during interviews. The exaggerated way of speaking is like a quieter version of how he spoke while playing Gordon Cole in Twin Peaks and seems to be done for dramatic effect. The short answer to the question of why or when he began talking like that is “I don’t know” which is my preference when it comes to anything David Lynch related. Things being left unexplained is all part of the appeal and was part of the appeal with Morrissey for a long time too. I read recently about what subconsciously influenced Lost Highway and now that I know I’m not sure that I really wanted to know. I’ll have to rewatch it and see how this information changes my perception of what I’m seeing:

At the time Barry Gifford and I were writing the script for Lost Highway, I was sort of obsessed with the O.J. Simpson trial. Barry and I never talked about it this way, but I think the film is somehow related to that…What struck me about O.J. Simpson was that he was able to smile and laugh. He was able to go golfing with seemingly very few problems about the whole thing. I wondered how, if a person did these deeds, he could go on living. And we found this great psychology term—’psychogenic fugue’—describing an event where the mind tricks itself to escape some horror. So, in a way, Lost Highway is about that. And the fact that nothing can stay hidden forever.
 
Looking forward to watching Glastonbury on IPlayer this year as there are a few bands/artists playing that I like for a change, eg The National, James, Keane, PJ Harvey, Paul Heaton, Squeeze, Cyndi Lauper, Toyhah and Robert, The Farm, The Lottery Winners etc....

 
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