Johnny Marr plays Smiths songs with orchestra in Manchester (December 7-8, 2023)

Surface posted the link in the original thread:

Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want


Also:

How Soon Is Now?


Panic


There Is A Light That Never Goes Out


EDIT 4:24PM PT
link posted by Mozzer1980:

Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me


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This looks like fun, if Johnny wants to do it and people want to go see it, I don't see the problem with it. The Smiths broke up, mommy and daddy are not getting back together, they should each be able to move on without the constant whining. And seriously, a Smiths reunion is impossible now, Andy is no longer with us.
This sounds a lot better than anything Morrissey is doing now.
 
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Surface said:
Probably not but 10000 people paid to see Johnny Marr play lots of his solo stuff along with some Smiths and Electronic songs.
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I wanted to say “imagine paying to watch Peter Hook sing the songs of Joy Division and New Order :paranoid:”, but neither of those bands had excellent vocalists anyway so the statement doesn’t really apply in the same way that it does with Johnny Marr singing the songs of The Smiths!

Ian Curtis was a bad singer and Bernard Sumner is a bland singer. Peter Hook as a singer is a combination of bad and bland.
Joy Division/New Order not having any great singers isn’t such a terrible thing, I enjoy some of their songs regardless. Sonic Youth is another band that has a few songs I still like, despite also having three ‘singers’ who couldn’t sing.
Anyone who clicked this far: you’re wild for doing so, I already clarified everything I wanted to clarify!
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Surface said:
He only played 5 Smiths songs Amy, which is less than Morrissey is playing on his current tour, the majority of the set was his solo stuff.
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Imagine paying to watch Johnny Marr sing anything at all, though. I might pay to watch him play instrumental versions of Smiths songs for a reasonable price but that’s it. If he opened his mouth for any reason other than for some pithy banter between songs, I would be out the door so fast. Actually, no. That wouldn’t work either because the audience likely would insist on singing the words over the instrumentals and I can’t imagine myself enjoying that very much. There’s just no scenario in which I would pay to see Johnny Marr (solo) in concert as a headline act. I tried to come up with one!
 
Born to Harangue said:
I wanted to say “imagine paying to watch Peter Hook sing the songs of Joy Division and New Order :paranoid:”, but neither of those bands had excellent vocalists anyway so the statement doesn’t really apply in the same way that it does with Johnny Marr singing the songs of The Smiths!

Ian Curtis was a bad singer and Bernard Sumner is a bland singer. Peter Hook as a singer is a combination of bad and bland.
Joy Division/New Order not having any great singers isn’t such a terrible thing, I enjoy some of their songs regardless. Sonic Youth is another band that has a few songs I still like, despite also having three ‘singers’ who couldn’t sing.
Anyone who clicked this far: you’re wild for doing so, I already clarified everything I wanted to clarify!
Clicking a 4th spoiler within a spoiler? You’re insane!
…seek help :neutral:
You’re KINKY for clicking this far, hehe! Call me right now on 1-555-Confide :tongue:, for acceptance, comfort, and spiritual relief. Satisfaction guaranteed!
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Imagine paying to watch Johnny Marr sing anything at all, though. I might pay to watch him play instrumental versions of Smiths songs for a reasonable price but that’s it. If he opened his mouth for any reason other than for some pithy banter between songs, I would be out the door so fast. Actually, no. That wouldn’t work either because the audience likely would insist on singing the words over the instrumentals and I can’t imagine myself enjoying that very much. There’s just no scenario in which I would pay to see Johnny Marr (solo) in concert as a headline act. I tried to come up with one!
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Don’t be ridiculous!
 
Surface said:
Oops, the silly bitter man is back, Johnny's just played to 10000 people with the majority of his set being his solo stuff, he's also just recently released another album that landed in the top 10 in the charts. Don't see many M attacks in this thread either.
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Keep going, I know you can't stop loving me.
 
Anonymous said:
I know that people are - obviously - Smiths obsessed on this site (as am I), but when I saw Johnny play the Thursday night show with the orchestra, the biggest cheers came for the two Electronic songs.
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Getting Away with got the biggest cheers on Friday as well.
 
Surface said:
Morrissey sings them better, Johnny plays them better, don't thinks there's any debate about that, although I do wonder what Morrissey would sound like if he played guitar and sang them at the same time.
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🤣 Now that, i would like to see, and hear
 
This people talking during Last Night I Dreamt deserve to be shot. C*nts
 
As much as I'm a Smiths obsessive and I think Johnny is great, I simply have no interest in hearing him sing those songs, for the simple reason that I don't believe he's felt those things. Something like "Please, Please, Please..." is a desperate lyric and there's an element of absurd self-loathing to it. I still believe Morrissey when he sings it, all these years later, through his millions - but someone like Johnny, nope. It's just very well played karaoke.
 
The lyrics are a such an authentic product of Morrissey's own very distinctive world view and personality (disorder) that anyone else singing them always sounds like empty, meaningless third-rate karaoke. If the choice is between JM's expert musicians and arrangements without M's voice or M's lacklustre band with M's voice singing his own lyrics, then I'm afraid it's Morrissey every time. Much easier to forgive musical shortcomings when you have the original authentic voice. This is like hearing Ringo Starr trying to sing The Long and Winding Road.
 
Anonymous said:
The lyrics are a such an authentic product of Morrissey's own very distinctive world view and personality (disorder) that anyone else singing them always sounds like empty, meaningless third-rate karaoke. If the choice is between JM's expert musicians and arrangements without M's voice or M's lacklustre band with M's voice singing his own lyrics, then I'm afraid it's Morrissey every time. Much easier to forgive musical shortcomings when you have the original authentic voice. This is like hearing Ringo Starr trying to sing The Long and Winding Road.
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Actually, I can imagine Ringo doing a quite decent version of The Long and Winding Road - it's got that doleful, wistful quality that suits his voice.

What I'd pay to see is a Smiths reunion with Marr on lead vocals, Morrissey on guitar, Mike Joyce on bass, and Simon Wolstencroft on drums.

Marr: "And now for our next number.... 'Barbarism Begins at Home'

Mike: "Gimme a minute... how does that one go again?"

Marr: "Moz, your guitar's upside down"
 
Anonymous said:
The lyrics are a such an authentic product of Morrissey's own very distinctive world view and personality (disorder) that anyone else singing them always sounds like empty, meaningless third-rate karaoke. If the choice is between JM's expert musicians and arrangements without M's voice or M's lacklustre band with M's voice singing his own lyrics, then I'm afraid it's Morrissey every time. Much easier to forgive musical shortcomings when you have the original authentic voice. This is like hearing Ringo Starr trying to sing The Long and Winding Road.
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BookishBoy said:
As much as I'm a Smiths obsessive and I think Johnny is great, I simply have no interest in hearing him sing those songs, for the simple reason that I don't believe he's felt those things. Something like "Please, Please, Please..." is a desperate lyric and there's an element of absurd self-loathing to it. I still believe Morrissey when he sings it, all these years later, through his millions - but someone like Johnny, nope. It's just very well played karaoke.
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That's all fair enough and everyone has their own opinions on these sorts of things. The gigs seem to have gone down well for those who attended and the reviews are great. He only played 5 Smiths songs with the majority of the set being his solo stuff.

I've seen James and Echo and Bunnymen play with orchestras this year but Johnny's gig was far better than both of those.
 
Anonymous said:
I know that people are - obviously - Smiths obsessed on this site (as am I), but when I saw Johnny play the Thursday night show with the orchestra, the biggest cheers came for the two Electronic songs.
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How often does he do those Electronic songs though?
 
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