Morrissey Central "HOUSTON, OCTOBER 31" (November 2, 2024)


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PHOTOGRAPHER: RYAN LOWRY
 
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Great photos. Way to kick off a tour.


The music industry is known to be pretty inglorious, but given the extremes odbmke is going to in stalking Morrissey to abuse and badmouth him, I'm convinced they're imposters, as just about no one in the industry would stoop that low. Disgraceful.


Welcome back; haven't seen you for a while.

Someone should be given the job of crossing the stage to unburden Morrissey of his jacket and put it somewhere safe once he removes it, to save him having to carry it while singing.

Some more discussion of the night on the Steve Hoffman Music Forum - https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/morrissey-news.686649/page-30
Disgraceful is allowing fans to harass Capitol Records staff.
 
Off topic, but this evening on BBC 2, there has been a couple of programmes about The Cure which includes a recent concert for BBC Radio 2.

Robert Smith really knows how to organise a concert playlist.
 
He thinks some label exec will see photos of a full concert in 2024 and forget his own awful treatment of every other label exec he’s ever worked with from 1983-yesterday. (If this was about caring about sharing sweet and tender moments with fans, he would make ser do something, anything with his Instagram.) EDIT: I see my advice was seen and taken ha

And the Public Enemy shirt? Moz, the only opponent you have is the man in the mirror. He is the one who turns down every interview request and record deal. You have canceled yourself my man.
Hi insider, why do you come here? Just go away and f*** yourself just as uncle skinny and all the other haters :rock:
 
Hi insider, why do you come here? Just go away and f*** yourself just as uncle skinny and all the other haters :rock:
I come here to discuss Morrisseys career on a Morrissey forum. (Graciously kept going by David T for 27 years despite also being a victim of M’s cruelness) 95% of what I’m saying has nothing to do with my recent experiences, it comes from my watching this show daily for 34 seasons and being able to plot trajectories.
 
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He thinks some label exec will see photos of a full concert in 2024 and forget his own awful treatment of every other label exec he’s ever worked with from 1983-yesterday. (If this was about caring about sharing sweet and tender moments with fans, he would make ser do something, anything with his Instagram.) EDIT: I see my advice was seen and taken ha

And the Public Enemy shirt? Moz, the only opponent you have is the man in the mirror. He is the one who turns down every interview request and record deal. You have canceled yourself my man.
I think you really do have to reach out to the fans all the time and keep them engaged. Morrissey doesn't do that, he has no vehicle for promotion and he could so easily put his own team together.
 
I think you really do have to reach out to the fans all the time and keep them engaged. Morrissey doesn't do that, he has no vehicle for promotion and he could so easily put his own team together.
He was at 114k insta followers end of July when management was actively reposting stories and doing various anniversary posts. Just that got his followers up to 133k by mid sept when he fired management (and where it still sits now) Followers = reach, and if you really can’t be bothered to make ser repost stories once a day to keep engagement up, what are you even doing? He also doesn’t have an email list for christs sake.

Depeche Mode has had a full time web person since the late 90s. Moz got “Morrissey.com” in 1995 and has done f*** all with it. Which is sad because even getting it in 1995 was ahead of its time. I was working for Madonna in 2002 and we had to convince her that even having her own website was worth it/necessary.
 
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He was at 114k insta followers end of July when management was actively reposting stories and doing various anniversary posts. Just that got his followers up to 133k by mid sept when he fired management (and where it still sits now) Followers = reach, and if you really can’t be bothered to make ser repost stories once a day to keep engagement up, what are you even doing? He also doesn’t have an email list for christs sake.
Do you mean email for mailing list, because he does need that and an email as a way to get in touch with him or someone who is part of his team. When I used to do this, we were constantly thinking of ways to engage the fans, it only took a few people and the manager didn't even have to get involved, we would just report what we were doing, we would run new ideas by the manager so no one was out there going rogue, but it's totally doable. I was a contact person so I got a lot of questions, interview requests, press pass/photo pass requests. interview requests, guest list requests, we had contests for guest list, ticket giveaways - this is very easy stuff and it leaves the manager free to do other things.
 
Do you mean email for mailing list, because he does need that and an email as a way to get in touch with him or someone who is part of his team. When I used to do this, we were constantly thinking of ways to engage the fans, it only took a few people and the manager didn't even have to get involved, we would just report what we were doing, we would run new ideas by the manager so no one was out there going rogue, but it's totally doable. I was a contact person so I got a lot of questions, interview requests, press pass/photo pass requests. interview requests, guest list requests, we had contests for guest list, ticket giveaways - this is very easy stuff and it leaves the manager free to do other things.
No list of fan emails. Even if he had one, what would he do with it? He came up in the label system and just doesn’t know what to do besides go out on stage and hope people are there every night. He seems to have checked out around 2012, before social became as important as it is now. All it takes is reposting stories a few times a day and posting release/tv appearance anniversaries. Christ, imagine what would happen if he took 10 minutes out of his busy schedule every week and just posted a 60 second video talking about music, or what it was like recording Vauxhall, or if Panic really is about Jimmy Saville? Give people something to talk about other than a lapel pin, and they will forget about the lapel pin.
 
No list of fan emails. Even if he had one, what would he do with it? He came up in the label system and just doesn’t know what to do besides go out on stage and hope people are there every night. He seems to have checked out around 2012, before social became as important as it is now. All it takes is reposting stories a few times a day and posting release/tv appearance anniversaries. Christ, imagine what would happen if he took 10 minutes out of his busy schedule every week and just posted a 60 second video talking about music, or what it was like recording Vauxhall, or if Panic really is about Jimmy Saville? Give people something to talk about other than a lapel pin, and they will forget about the lapel pin.
Well, now that I think about it, I wouldn't want his obits and weird stuff he posts coming to my email, so scratch that.
The move to social media, to me anyway, started around 2008 with Facebook and Twitter (and even before with MySpace) and bands realizing they did not have to pay for and maintain their own website and have people experienced in how to run those websites to connect with the public. A lot of us already knew how to use the social media and all the fans were gathered in one or two places and it was just a matter of getting the fans to the pages, which involved a lot of link posting to other various pages, but it worked and it was more cost effective for the bands and there were more functions that were free, it just had a wider reach and more options. If he got that Facebook page active, it would be a great start, you could post about anything - his videos, his concerts, On This Day, concerts and tours (Peter Hook does this just about every day and talks to the fans), old interviews - just anything to get people to reply and start a conversation. Start a fan group, there are so many things he could do and people who could do it for him.
 
Well, now that I think about it, I wouldn't want his obits and weird stuff he posts coming to my email, so scratch that.
The move to social media, to me anyway, started around 2008 with Facebook and Twitter (and even before with MySpace) and bands realizing they did not have to pay for and maintain their own website and have people experienced in how to run those websites to connect with the public. A lot of us already knew how to use the social media and all the fans were gathered in one or two places and it was just a matter of getting the fans to the pages, which involved a lot of link posting to other various pages, but it worked and it was more cost effective for the bands and there were more functions that were free, it just had a wider reach and more options. If he got that Facebook page active, it would be a great start, you could post about anything - his videos, his concerts, On This Day, concerts and tours (Peter Hook does this just about every day and talks to the fans), old interviews - just anything to get people to reply and start a conversation. Start a fan group, there are so many things he could do and people who could do it for him.
Which is essentially why I’m here talking. I got a peek behind the curtain and can confirm it is as much of a behinds the scenes clusterf*** as I feared. Someone could run his Instagram effectively and only even open the app while on the toilet. That’s how easy it is, and he still just does not give a cluck.
 
Which is essentially why I’m here talking. I got a peek behind the curtain and can confirm it is as much of a behinds the scenes clusterf*** as I feared. Someone could run his Instagram effectively and only even open the app while on the toilet. That’s how easy it is, and he still just does not give a cluck.
It's true tho, a few posts would do it. I estimated I put in 10-20 hours a week depending on what was going on, this band toured a lot so there was a lot to do, but for someone like Morrissey who doesn't tour that much, it would be much easier. Then you get the personality problems and I honestly believe I dealt with someone who was even more difficult than Morrissey, it was a nightmare. There was a huge turnover there.
 
It's true tho, a few posts would do it. I estimated I put in 10-20 hours a week depending on what was going on, this band toured a lot so there was a lot to do, but for someone like Morrissey who doesn't tour that much, it would be much easier. Then you get the personality problems and I honestly believe I dealt with someone who was even more difficult than Morrissey, it was a nightmare. There was a huge turnover there.
For someone with a deep knowledge of his career*, scheduling and pulling the content together for a months worth of anniversary posts would only take a few hours a month ;)

*which now that I think about it, is probably why ser can’t do it himself.
 
Sounds like you need a good night's sleep.
I was going to suggest taking fewer drugs.
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Different strokes. As it happens, my strokes are always a lighter touch than even the softest feather. Lighter than air.

A little too tumultuous? Still a little too raw? Don’t worry, I turn it all on and off like a light switch.

My words are nothing but an ambulant ghost’s untouchable embrace.

I traffic only in dissonance of the heart.
 
Different strokes. As it happens, my strokes are always a lighter touch than even the softest feather. Lighter than air.

A little too tumultuous? Still a little too raw? Don’t worry, I turn it all on and off like a light switch.

My words are nothing but an ambulant ghost’s untouchable embrace.

I traffic only in dissonance of the heart.

Genuinely concerned for your wellbeing.
 
That Jesus/Jim Cavizel backdrop is messed up. Is he likening himself to Christ now, rejected by the clueless masses? Teying to be tongue in cheek? I really don't know anymore... Spare me.
 
Caviezel and Gibson (who directed the movie) are also ardent Trump supporters. I wonder if Morrissey is aware of that.

First found source for the stage image was:



Make of it...
Regards,
FWD.
 
A quite original and keen review of Morrissey's concert in Houston, sharing a few extra details, by Cynthia Isabel Zelaya-Ordonez from Off The Record:

"Through subject matter and humor style alike, it was clear that the portrayals of Morrissey, bleak, poetic and melodramatic, in pop culture were not just an act or an exaggeration made for laughs. It was legitimately just how Morrissey is. He still knows how to tug on the heartstrings, conjuring the isolation and sorrow that his music embodies."

https://offrecord.blog/morrissey-fi...he-first-stop-was-at-houstons-713-music-hall/
 
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