Fiona Dodwell: "Misunderstanding Morrissey: Sparks and the steady drip, drip, drip of slander" (July 15, 2020)

"One wonders whether the vocal Morrissey detractors have delved much beyond the surface of NME's clickbait headlines and the lefty identity politics of formerly reputable publications like The Guardian."

Misunderstanding Morrissey: Sparks and the steady drip, drip, drip of slander

One wonders whether the vocal Morrissey detractors have delved much beyond the surface of NME’s clickbait headlines and the lefty identity politics of formerly reputable publications like The Guardian.

thepostmillennial.com

FWD.

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[Deleted member 29417]

So don't Jews but you have no problem with it

EU doesn't know what they're doing. Unfortunately America and England decided we should bomb the shit out of the middle east for the last 20 yrs on behalf of a bunch of grabblers. Of course it was Israel that gave the Intel that Iraq had WMD's which was a lie

It was Saddam Hussein who pretended he had WMD's & wouldn't back down because he didn't want to look weak in front of Iran. And they took a punt that he had something, they didn't need Israel. They had the somewhat open-ended nature of the first gulf war, some 'sexed up' reports & a renewed faith in humanitarian intervention based on the end of the conflict in the former Yugoslavia. Which turned out to be very misplaced.

Our foreign policy stinks all on its own.

 

[gordyboy9]

Let out of her box again, I see. You see, the thing about crying 'slander' is the following - take it to the court instead of whining. If you have evidence, and are confident it will stand up - test it in court. Because otherwise it's all whining about what is fair comment. Evidence of what's been said and done? Here you go...

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@FatGayVegan/steven-patrick-morrissey-and-the-mysterious-case-of-the-disappearing-uk-fanbase-419ad5cfcfc0

Also - I can't believe I'm having to say this again, but his 'humanity' towards animals, as some people here said, led him to support a far-right party, who happen not to like brown people.

usual collection of roasters liked this post,you know who they are.

 

[That's Enough For Me]

Let out of her box again, I see. You see, the thing about crying 'slander' is the following - take it to the court instead of whining. If you have evidence, and are confident it will stand up - test it in court. Because otherwise it's all whining about what is fair comment. Evidence of what's been said and done? Here you go...

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@FatGayVegan/steven-patrick-morrissey-and-the-mysterious-case-of-the-disappearing-uk-fanbase-419ad5cfcfc0

Also - I can't believe I'm having to say this again, but his 'humanity' towards animals, as some people here said, led him to support a far-right party, who happen not to like brown people.

Are you speaking as someone who has had to fund and live through such court action?

I am.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

Let out of her box again, I see. You see, the thing about crying 'slander' is the following - take it to the court instead of whining. If you have evidence, and are confident it will stand up - test it in court. Because otherwise it's all whining about what is fair comment. Evidence of what's been said and done? Here you go...

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@FatGayVegan/steven-patrick-morrissey-and-the-mysterious-case-of-the-disappearing-uk-fanbase-419ad5cfcfc0

Also - I can't believe I'm having to say this again, but his 'humanity' towards animals, as some people here said, led him to support a far-right party, who happen not to like brown people.

A party that doesn't support unlimited mass immigration. Which should be every political party's stance.......if they love this country and it's people.

 

[That's Enough For Me]

If you’re going to shut down/cancel people saying things you don’t like, who decides what is allowed? Twitter mob cultural Marxist skinny fanatic woke liberals? Great

Your first point is very well observed. There is no longer an ultimate moral arbiter in society.

It used to be God and then it was law, but both got cancelled due to their unpopularity with voters.

I think it might be social media now.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

She comes across petty dim and simple on her instagram posts, she’s just ketamine sun & thewlis, but with a slightly wider reach. Sad f***ers that spend their life defending Morrissey. Justifying all kinds of abhorrent behaviours. Suppose if you can stoop low enough to justify child rape, as a lot of these mozbots did, in the Spacey case, then being a racist sympathiser is no biggie.

Did he justify "child-rape" or question what the hell was he doing there in the first place, a party, at the home of a known, homosexual predator.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

Did he justify "child-rape" or question what the hell was he doing there in the first place, a party, at the home of a known, homosexual predator.

Spacey wasn't even accused of child rape. He was accused of making a pass at a 14 year old boy who was alone with him in his flat, who turned him down & left.

 

[GodEmperorMorrissey]

It was Saddam Hussein who pretended he had WMD's & wouldn't back down because he didn't want to look weak in front of Iran. And they took a punt that he had something, they didn't need Israel. They had the somewhat open-ended nature of the first gulf war, some 'sexed up' reports & a renewed faith in humanitarian intervention based on the end of the conflict in the former Yugoslavia. Which turned out to be very misplaced.

Our foreign policy stinks all on its own.

I agree it stinks all around but Israel said they knew for a fact that Iraq had WMD's. We've spent 80 years going to war so Israel can have their country

 

[Deleted member 29417]

A party that doesn't support unlimited mass immigration. Which should be every political party's stance.......if they love this country and it's people.

It literally is every party's stance. No one has ever supported unlimited mass immigration. It's not good for the countries who experience a brain drain, so makes global inequalities even worse.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

I agree it stinks all around but Israel said they knew for a fact that Irag had WMD's. We've spent 80 years going to war so Israel can have their country

That is bollocks - we've spent 80 years perusing our own agenda while Israel tries to keep important allies. It's got some emotional & strategic clout, but it's not been dazzling or manipulating us.

 

[ordinaryboy86]

Spacey wasn't even accused of child rape. He was accused of making a pass at a 14 year old boy who was alone with him in his flat, who turned him down & left.

“making a pass” - Meh, no biggie eh, play it down all you want.

Did he justify "child-rape" or question what the hell was he doing there in the first place, a party, at the home of a known, homosexual predator.

Jesus f***in Christ mate, did you hear him mentioned how spacey was culpable? No, not once, never. Morrisseys knee jerk response was to blame the parents and say the kid should’ve known better, that’s excusing the offender in my eyes. And even if part of that’s true, he didn’t deserve to made a “pass at” - as nerak casually puts it. Some of you lot really f***ing worry me.

 

[Vegan. Cro. Spirit. 888]

Let out of her box again, I see. You see, the thing about crying 'slander' is the following - take it to the court instead of whining. If you have evidence, and are confident it will stand up - test it in court. Because otherwise it's all whining about what is fair comment. Evidence of what's been said and done? Here you go...

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@FatGayVegan/steven-patrick-morrissey-and-the-mysterious-case-of-the-disappearing-uk-fanbase-419ad5cfcfc0

Also - I can't believe I'm having to say this again, but his 'humanity' towards animals, as some people here said, led him to support a far-right party, who happen not to like brown people.

WTF????


you want fiona to test slandering in court???

moz is already burying the ayatollah loving guardian into the ground.

 

[ordinaryboy86]

Jesus f***in Christ mate, did you hear him mentioned how spacey was culpable? No, not once, never. Morrisseys knee jerk response was to blame the parents and say the kid should’ve known better, that’s excusing the offender in my eyes. And even if part of that’s true, he didn’t deserve to made a “pass at” - as nerak casually puts it. Some of you lot really f***ing worry me.

Well the parents are disgusting for leaving their son with a pervert just cause they want to be around famous people
Morrissey wasn't wrong about that part
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There should be absolutely NO blame on anyone, except spacey. No more to be said.

 

[GodEmperorMorrissey]

That is bollocks - we've spent 80 years perusing our own agenda while Israel tries to keep important allies. It's got some emotional & strategic clout, but it's not been dazzling or manipulating us.

Oh but Russia has? Gtfoh. Every middle east conflict is related to our countries relationship with Israel. WW2 was the start and been going on since

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

It literally is every party's stance. No one has ever supported unlimited mass immigration. It's not good for the countries who experience a brain drain, so makes global inequalities even worse.

Are you having a laugh? Even the Tories are a party of mass immigration.

 

[GodEmperorMorrissey]

Well the parents are disgusting for leaving their son with a pervert just cause they want to be around famous people
Morrissey wasn't wrong about that part

Whoa wtf? That's not my quote

 

[Vegan. Cro. Spirit. 888]

very well reasoned and excellently written piece by Fiona. Again.
of course, the skinny loving, rump kissing, dole imbibing, commie colluding, woke knobbing, salamalaching twats here cant probably make sense of it.

 

[Deleted member 29417]

“making a pass” - Meh, no biggie eh, play it down all you want.



Jesus f***in Christ mate, did you hear him mentioned how spacey was culpable? No, not once, never. Morrisseys knee jerk response was to blame the parents and say the kid should’ve known better, that’s excusing the offender in my eyes. And even if part of that’s true, he didn’t deserve to made a “pass at” - as nerak casually puts it. Some of you lot really f***ing worry me.

He didn't say he wasn't culpable - he wondered about the circumstances, then moved on to a general point about Me Too - which pretty much everyone his age in showbiz was making.

He was also making it after a spate of allegations about showbiz & political figures that had seemed to target gay men, based on the word of a man who would turn out to be a fantasist who was jailed for it.

Operation Midland: how the police fell for VIP abuse fantasist

The Met had vowed not to shy from historical sex abuse after the Jimmy Saville scandal

www.theguardian.com

Spacey is yet to be convicted.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

“making a pass” - Meh, no biggie eh, play it down all you want.



Jesus f***in Christ mate, did you hear him mentioned how spacey was culpable? No, not once, never. Morrisseys knee jerk response was to blame the parents and say the kid should’ve known better, that’s excusing the offender in my eyes. And even if part of that’s true, he didn’t deserve to made a “pass at” - as nerak casually puts it. Some of you lot really f***ing worry me.

I've been in a dodgy position with an older guy....i'm certainly not letting the offender off the hook.

 

[Stephen Hofmann]

He didn't say he wasn't culpable - he wondered about the circumstances, then moved on to a general point about Me Too - which pretty much everyone his age in showbiz was making.

He was also making it after a spate of allegations about showbiz & political figures that had seemed to target gay men, based on the word of a man who would turn out to be a fantasist who was jailed for it.

There are lots of dodgy men out there. I remember being on a training course, doing admin for this guy that made a weird burping noize. Took me back to his and put on a porno. That wasn't fun. Another occasion I missed the last train out of London and some supposedly kind Asian/Indian old guy that worked there, said "sleep in my office". I had his cock straining at my arse all night....which wasn't much fun at 17.