Does the Mexican-American Community Still Love Morrissey, Despite Everything? - Pitchfork

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Does the Mexican-American Community Still Love Morrissey, Despite Everything? - Pitchfork
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This past weekend, thousands of Latinx folks gathered at Queen Mary Park in Long Beach, California, for the second annual Tropicália Music and Taco Festival. Likened to a Latinx Coachella by some attendees, Tropicália was put on this year by that California mega-fest’s own promoter, Goldenvoice, but did not abandon its original spirit. The lineup featured cumbia legends like Los Ángeles Azules and La Sonora Dinamita right alongside newly beloved bilingual favorites Chicano Batman, Kali Uchis, and Cardi B (who was replaced by SZA at the last minute, due to illness). Peppered in were indie-rock darlings like Mac DeMarco, Toro y Moi, and Mazzy Star.

And then there was Morrissey.
 
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If Mexico was invaded by hordes of people who showed little respect for the host culture, then Mexicans would feel the same as many English people feel today.

Nobody needs to be a genius to understand that.
 
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Uncleskinny said:
If they don't hate him it's because they don't read the UK news, where Moz has called Farage a liberal educator, supported right-wing parties, sneered at brown people in the public eye, and called Hitler left-wing. Morrissey is an uninformed, racist embarrassment, and he only tours where he can make money from people who haven't heard his bullshit pronouncements.
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You are such a misinformed cretin who believes everything he reads to be true.

For your information Hitler belonged to the National Socialist Workers Party. I'd also like you to point out exactly where Morrissey said Hitler was a good guy.

Instead of being a gullible bed wetting twat, actually read something other than propaganda pieces and find out for yourself.
 
Despite what?

Also it's nice of Pissfork to lump all Mexican Americans in as one mob that all think the same, Isn't that a little... what's the word?
 
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reelfountain said:
If Mexico was invaded by hordes of people who showed little respect for the host culture, then Mexicans would feel the same as many English people feel today.

Nobody needs to be a genius to understand that.
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The British Empire invaded and shit all over the 1st and 2nd world for centuries, raping them both literally and figuratively. Now they don’t want anything to do with the folks from those very nations. You whiny little pussy-ass hypocrite bitches need to suck it up.

Nobody needs to be a f***ing genius to understand THAT!

Tit-for-tat
 
Uncleskinny said:
If they don't hate him it's because they don't read the UK news, where Moz has called Farage a liberal educator, supported right-wing parties, sneered at brown people in the public eye, and called Hitler left-wing. Morrissey is an uninformed, racist embarrassment, and he only tours where he can make money from people who haven't heard his bullshit pronouncements.
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This article is ugly and so lazily ill informed. The usual old clichéd out of context quotes are trotted out amid simplistic wonder as to why Morrissey wasn't booed off stage. Maybe it's because people understand that the polarising dramas played out in the media aren't the truth. That simply repeating and repeating the same judgements of Morrissey doesn't make them true. Nuance is not in their vocabulary. Noone is being asked to agree wholeheartedly with everything he says, but maybe appreciate the grey areas in every argument, and the grains of truth that lie behind them
 
Anonymous said:
You are such a misinformed cretin who believes everything he reads to be true.

For your information Hitler belonged to the National Socialist Workers Party. I'd also like you to point out exactly where Morrissey said Hitler was a good guy.

Socialism for the "master race," sweetheart. Huge distinction. Hitler was in no sense "liberal," and I'm sure he would have been the first to admit that.

While we're playing this game, Hitler was also a vegetarian, just like Morrissey, so there you go.

Instead of being a gullible bed wetting twat, actually read something other than propaganda pieces and find out for yourself.
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The only one I see crying here, is you.

Nothing inaccurate has been stated about Morrissey's beliefs. Nothing. If anything, Morrissey has intentionally lied about what others have said about him, but he's never been know for his accuracy.
 
It's difficult deciding what's more undignified, Morrissey's string of comments, or the minority of feeble minds he now has defending him.

Either way, enjoy the show.

He's lost those who matter.
 
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The British Empire invaded and shit all over the 1st and 2nd world for centuries, raping them both literally and figuratively. Now they don’t want anything to do with the folks from those very nations. You whiny little pussy-ass hypocrite bitches need to suck it up.

Nobody needs to be a f***ing genius to understand THAT!

Tit-for-tat
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I think it's Mexico who are the 'pussy ass bitches' useless country, never won a war in their life. Peasants.
 
reelfountain said:
If Mexico was invaded by hordes of people who showed little respect for the host culture, then Mexicans would feel the same as many English people feel today.

Nobody needs to be a genius to understand that.
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Well in fact we're being invaded by hordes from all center and south America right now too, some of them are showing very little respect in fact. Still we don't feel exactly the same as the british do. Both cultures are not equal.
 
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I think it's Mexico who are the 'pussy ass bitches' useless country, never won a war in their life. Peasants.
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Lol go to school we kicked both american and french arses... sadly we had 1 idiot who sold California and Texas to the States...
 
A lot of fans, even ones critical of certain statements (as I've said before, I hated the Norway massacre comment), don't see an "everything". Media outlets love creating an "everything" to build their narratives on.

Brilliant uncle who says some head-scratching shit and is probably out of touch with the real world...but still love him and the art he created.
 
King Leer said:
A lot of fans, even ones critical of certain statements (as I've said before, I hated the Norway massacre comment), don't see an "everything". Media outlets love creating an "everything" to build their narratives on.

Brilliant uncle who says some head-scratching shit and is probably out of touch with the real world...but still love him and the art he created.
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Yes, I felt the 'despite everything' headline quite judgemental in its own way, too!
 
Free speech? Be aware folks: on this website you can say whatever you want about Moz. Call him a racist, call him a c***, call him a f***ing paedophile - you can say what you want and it will be allowed. But try to say something unpleasant about the haters - and it will not be allowed. Dozens of my posts lambasting the likes of Skinny have not been allowed. Free speech? Free hate of Moz. This really is So Low. Be aware.
 
One thing I would like to dispel, Ive seen Morrissey is many states. And most of them in Texas. Those shows are still almost all non Hispanic whites. Like 75% or more. I’ve even seen members on here saying well those Texas dates will be all Mexican. Nothing wrong if that were true, but it’s so far from the case. Those shows are still almost all middle age run of the mill white everybodies, me included.
 
he should have asked the latinos whats your views on the thousands of Venezuelans heading towards the us border rather than writing a crap piece on Ms failings.
 
gordyboy9 said:
he should have asked the latinos whats your views on the thousands of Venezuelans heading towards the us border rather than writing a crap piece on Ms failings.
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Those evil people seeking a better life in another country; just like Morrissey's parents.

The reality is, Morrissey posing as some bedrock nationalist as he shelters in his ex-pat tax haven; having spent the majority his career denouncing the bedrock aspects of British culture, is rather rich.

At some point playing every side form every side starts to seem a bit disingenuous, and rather boring. It starts to move beyond the particulars of his ideology, to the realm of just seeing him as not a very serious person.

Some of you need to accept the fact that Morrissey doesn't really care about people; just like many of you don't, and at the end of the day, that makes you pretty much disposable. You're outside the conversation.

He's a schizoid narcissist, and he should be taken to task for the that; regardless of his political views. Narcissism is acceptable when you're young, but when you grow up, and have investments in other people, it i seen for what it always was: A mental illness.
 
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