Der Spiegel audio file of Morrissey interview released

Here you go. The recording of the interview.

Der Audiomitschnitt zum SPIEGEL-Interview mit Morrissey - Spiegel Online
Sänger Morrissey fühlt sich nach einem Interview mit dem SPIEGEL falsch zitiert und will nun nie wieder mit Printmedien sprechen. Hören Sie hier den Mitschnitt des Interviews.

English version:

The Audio of DER SPIEGEL's Interview with Morrissey
British pop singer Morrissey has accused DER SPIEGEL of falsely quoting him in a recently published interview. The magazine stands behind its reporting and has made the decision to post the audio online in response.

On Friday, Nov. 10, DER SPIEGEL culture reporter Juliane Liebert told her editors that she had been offered an interview with British popstar Morrissey and that a decision needed to be made quickly on whether to accept. We agreed: The former lead singer of The Smiths doesn't shy away from speaking his mind - and he also doesn't grant interviews very often.

The following Monday, Liebert flew to Los Angeles, where she was to interview Morrissey on Tuesday. The interview appointment got delayed several times before finally taking place on Wednesday and lasting 40 minutes. Edited versions of interviews published in DER SPIEGEL are usually authorized by the interview subject before publication, consistent with established procedure in German journalism. But in this instance, Morrissey's team elected to forego authorization.

After its publication on Nov. 18 in DER SPIEGEL, the interview (available behind the SPIEGEL Plus paywall in German) generated headlines not only in the German-language media. English publications like the Independent also wrote about Morrissey's statements regarding Trump, Brexit, the #MeToo debate and questions of national identity.

The musician then sought to distance himself from the published interview. "Unless you see the words form in my mouth and then you see or hear the words come out of my mouth... please, if you don't see that, I didn't say them," he told fans at a concert. He said he would never grant an interview to a print journalist again.

On Monday, Morrissey followed up with a post on his official Facebook page casting doubt on whether his statements had been reflected accurately by DER SPIEGEL. He also alleged that the fact that the magazine had not yet posted the raw audio of the interview was tantamount to an indirect admission of guilt.

To counter that claim, the editors of DER SPIEGEL have decided to post the audio of the interview online.

You can listen to the interview conducted with Morrissey in Los Angeles on Nov. 15 here:

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Posted by Famous when dead:

Interview mp3 - yours to keep:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/dx1c0j
(the exact file as used on the site).



Media coverage:

• German News Site Releases Audio of Controversial Morrissey Interview: Listen - Pitchfork. Link posted by an anonymous person.
• Morrissey Really Did Say All Those Controversial Things, Newly Released Audio Proves - Uproxx. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• German news site calls Morrissey's bluff, releases audio of him saying shitty things - AV Club. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• Audio from Morrissey’s controversial interview has been released, and it proves he wasn’t misquoted - Consequence Of Sound. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• The audio revealing Morrissey’s defence of Kevin Spacey has been released - Tone Deaf. Link posted by BrummieBoy.
• Der Spiegel releases full audio from Morrissey interview after singer refutes controversial remarks - The Independent. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.
• Morrissey: Der Spiegel releases audio of controversial interview - BBC News. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.
• Sorry Morrissey, Der Spiegel Has Audio Proof You're Still an Asshole - Noisey / VICE. Link posted by Shyness 1s nice.

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Related item:

• Der Spiegel audio "to be released in the next days" - Juliane Liebert tweet - Dec. 11, 2017

 

[bhops]

As I said in an earlier post, it should be stressed upon arrival what is and what isn't acceptable. It'd be like throwing a bunch of idiots from the 80's into modern society.

So much to discuss from this short post.

Here is my issue, and I think the issue with a lot of people who are troubled by the sudden and mass migration from the Middle East (and please note the italicized words as I want make it clear that I am not ANTI immigration.) What does it say about a culture that they have to be told when arriving in a new country that groping women is not acceptable?

I mean really, shouldn't that just be logical regardless of where you live? And it is part of the conundrum I can never quite equate when debating my friends on the Left. (Not sure if you are left leaning Charlie, but from what I can glean from your posts, you are. I don't mean this in an offensive way either.) Take another thread the Weinstein thread where I have stated that for many men and women discussing sex in a frank and brutish manner is quite commonplace. My Leftist friends will tell me that that sort of talk is unacceptable, irresponsible etc. OK, so I take their point, I can understand how/why they feel that way even if I don't quite agree, because for me words and actions are two very different things.

Anyhoo these same folks will argue that mass immigration from the Middle East is nothing to worry about, even when Europe is importing hundreds of thousands of young men (because they mostly seem to be well fed, well clothed, android-phone-owning young men) who as you stated above (with your, they need to be reeducated comment) are coming from a culture that condones actual sexual assault against women.

Can you see how this confuses me? Please don't talk about women in a degrading manner/hey let's let thousands of young men who see women as their groping dolls into the country!

And as to your point about reeducation, I personally have my doubts. The problem being primarily one of infrastructure. I simply don't believe that Europe has the resources to both reeducate nor offer these economic migrants the new life they may be hoping for. Arriving in a new country, unable to speak the language, unable to secure gainful employment, dumped in virtual refugee camps with hundreds of similarly disaffected young youth, what do you really think the chances of reeducation are? There is a reason Merkel is offering them money to go back. And with ISIS virtually defeated there will be no reason soon not to return.

 

[reelfountain]

Listen here you c***. You said 1200 women were raped. I informed you that the actual number was 24. You asked if iI found that shocking. I said yes. its all there in the posts above and every reader of these posts can see what I said, so back off with your bullshit you f***ing troll wanker. And by the way its clear you are a f***ing racist by the tone of your posts!!

Firstly, sit down and have an asprin, you're getting all hot and bothered.

Secondly... ah, branding me with the hot-iron Orwellian R word. Now I know I've definitely won the argument. Actually I'm mixed race West Indian/Irish so I know all about racism having experienced it myself in various forms throughout my life - so stop presuming.

Thirdly, rape or sexual assault can be equally as traumatic, nullifying your point. I've spoken of the German matter umpteen times on this site and if I have occasionally said rape rather than rape and sex attacks due to haste or economy I apologise.

Fourthly, the terms you like to casually use on this site such as c*** or furthermore fat c*** might be titillating to you, but they are offensive and sexist.

But then again I'm forgetting something - this is a site that actively employs/supports misanthropic trollery.

 

[Timeplease!]

Wrong. The statistics are very real. As out of line as Morrissey was about Spacey, he was mostly right here. The only marginally inaccurate part was that Germany is the rape capital of Europe; it isn't - that's currently Sweden, but Germany is following along very closely behind. I direct you to this post (quoted below) that I put together earlier this afternoon. What Morrissey brought up is a hugely pressing issue which will only become more pressing and widespread over the coming years, and it's not in the least bit helped when weirdo losers such as yourself deny - for political reasons - that the problem even exists. So f*** you, you lying piece of shit.

What's that about lies? The damned, and statistics? Statistics aren't universally born equal. They measure different things. Reporting & manpower make a huge different to results. Ultimately what Morrissey says about Germany and those sex abusers isn't just unhelpful but it's edging over to the dark side, of making life harder for people already on their knees: kick 'em when they fell down, kick 'em when they fall down. Then he puts on the poor me Morrissey image until the indignation fades when he'll bludgeon some other poor defenseless son and heir of a shyness or that, in their bed, when they're least expecting it. What are we going to do with him?

 

[Timeplease!]

So much to discuss from this short post. Here is my issue, and I think the issue with a lot of people who are troubled by the sudden and mass migration from the Middle East (and please note the italicized words as I want make it clear that I am not ANTI immigration.) What does it say about a culture that they have to be told when arriving in a new country that groping women is not acceptable?

I mean really, shouldn't that just be logical regardless of where you live? And it is part of the conundrum I can never quite equate when debating my friends on the Left. (Not sure if you are left leaning Charlie, but from what I can glean from your posts, you are. I don't mean this in an offensive way either.) Take another thread the Weinstein thread where I have stated that for many men and women discussing sex in a frank and brutish manner is quite commonplace. My Leftist friends will tell me that that sort of talk is unacceptable, irresponsible etc. OK, so I take their point, I can understand how/why they feel that way even if I don't quite agree, because for me words and actions are two very different things.

So even though you appreciate that regular white men like Weinstein and guys you know talk rough about women and molest them, it's an inherent trait of non-resident non-native men, and something far worse, when they do it? Think please.

 

[reelfountain]

What's that about lies? The damned, and statistics? Statistics aren't universally born equal. They measure different things. Reporting & manpower make a huge different to results. Ultimately what Morrissey says about Germany and those sex abusers isn't just unhelpful but it's edging over to the dark side, of making life harder for people already on their knees: kick 'em when they fell down, kick 'em when they fall down. Then he puts on the poor me Morrissey image until the indignation fades when he'll bludgeon some other poor defenseless son and heir of a shyness or that, in their bed, when they're least expecting it. What are we going to do with him?

Edging over into the dark side nowadays usually means stating a case where reality doesn't correspond with cherished political beliefs. Moz should be commended for having the balls to mention these things. It's genuinely a worrying subject to anyone who cares about humanity.

 

[Surface]

Firstly, sit down and have an asprin, you're getting all hot and bothered.

I'm not hot and bothered at all, thanks

Secondly... ah, branding me with the hot-iron Orwellian R word. Now I know I've definitely won the argument. Actually I'm mixed race West Indian/Irish so I know all about racism having experienced it myself in various forms throughout my life - so stop presuming.

Are you saying you can't be racist if your West Indian/Irish, well you can be and you are

Thirdly, rape or sexual assault can be equally as traumatic, nullifying your point. I've spoken of the German matter umpteen times on this site and if I have occasionally said rape rather than rape and sex attacks due to haste or economy I apologise.

I agree rape or sexual assault can be equally traumatic but there is a massive difference between your claim of 1200 and 24 - calm down and type slower going forward

Fourthly, the terms you like to casually use on this site such as c*** or furthermore fat c*** might be titillating to you, but they are offensive and sexist.

Not sure why c*** or fat c*** can be seen a sexist

But then again I'm forgetting something - this is a site that actively employs/supports misanthropic trollery.

And don't forget it allows fat c***s like you to spread lies

 

[bhops]

So even though you appreciate that regular white men like Weinstein and guys you know talk rough about women and molest them, it's an inherent trait of non-resident non-native men, and something far worse, when they do it? Think please.

Please re-read what I said, actions and words are different. Weinstein is a nasty piece of work as he actually raped women and I hope he gets every bad thing coming to him. To the best of knowledge none of my friends male or female have ever sexually assaulted someone and if I found out that they did they wouldn't be my friend any longer.

 

[Timeplease!]

Please re-read what I said, actions and words are different. Weinstein is a nasty piece of work as he actually raped women and I hope he gets every bad thing coming to him. To the best of knowledge none of my friends male or female have ever sexually assaulted someone and if I found out that they did they wouldn't be my friend any longer.

Perhaps scrutiny of your own regions's sexual crime statistics would further enlighten you?

 

[reelfountain]

And don't forget it allows fat c***s like you to spread lies

I'm saying as a minority in England, I understand being on the receiving end of racism. And people as sheerly offensive and hateful as yourself are often racist... because one thing is for sure, you definitely are sexist, offensive and a rape apologist pal. Do you despise all women or just some?

 

[Timeplease!]

Edging over into the dark side nowadays usually means stating a case where reality doesn't correspond with cherished political beliefs. Moz should be commended for having the balls to mention these things. It's genuinely a worrying subject to anyone who cares about humanity.

But he mentions them as if they are faits accompli, and not items put on the table that are still evolving in the light of fair/unfair representation, especially of original circumstances.

 

[bhops]

Perhaps scrutiny of your own regions's sexual crime statistics would further enlighten you?

New Zealand? Not sure what i would glean from those.

Ok a couple of questions:

Did you find Charlie's statistics of 50% of assault cases being migrant disproportionate?

Why do you think it was a high as 50%

What are the solutions to reduce this disproportionate percentage (or is 50% acceptable to you?)

 

[reelfountain]

But he mentions them as if they are faits accompli, and not items put on the table that are still evolving in the light of fair/unfair representation, especially of original circumstances.

Really? Go and read your Guardian propaganda sheets...

 

[Surface]

I'm saying as a minority in England, I understand being on the receiving end of racism. And people as sheerly offensive and hateful as yourself are often racist... because one thing is for sure, you definitely are sexist, offensive and a rape apologist pal. Do you despise all women or just some?

Thanks for your views, only my wife, my 3 girls and my female dog know what I am really like, however everyone who reads my posts above will know that I am not a rape apologist and everyone who reads your posts know that you are a liar with a dislike of migrants. So see you later fat c***, I'm off to bed, watch out for the manholes - good thing is, you will get stuck in one rather than fall right into it

 

[reelfountain]

Call your wife a fat c*** and see how she likes it. You sound like a deplorable human being with a misanthropic hate problem. Sweet dreams.

 

[Peanut]

Re: The Cologne New Year's incident.

According to the report of the German Minister of the Interior, 103 of the 153 suspects are from Morocco or Algeria.

However, both of these countries are not even in the top 10 of asylum-seeker countries of origin (link), which is dominated by Syria.

It's convenient to label everyone as 'migrants' but this is a pretty crude classification which undoubtedly misses the bigger picture.

Not to mention that there are much fewer asylum applications across Europe for 2017 and 2016 compared to earlier years (in the case of Sweden, approx 1/8th the number of applications last year compared to 2015. link )

 

[Timeplease!]

New Zealand?
Did you find Charlie's statistics of 50% of assault cases being migrant disproportionate?
What are the solutions to reduce this disproportionate percentage (or is 50% acceptable to you?)

Really? Go and read your Guardian propaganda sheets...

I'm not a statistician but I'm guessing many immigrants have less opportunity for sex, are more likely to be accused, and less likely to get away with anything because their details are on the books. I believe most people don't hurt others.

Regarding solutions, seeing how prejudicial it is to label groups of people. Seeing the good things immigrants bring, their culture, their creations, their services, and the unique goods that come from distant lands we couldn't live without. Looking at European history, farther back, farther back, and realising that most European persons have Middle Eastern, Baltic and African genes at least, the earth having been colonised in that direction. Therefore seeing ourselves through our ancestors as immigrants. Seeing how much we all have in common and being willing to tolerate difference; to teach and learn from, each other. Deciding not to be haters.

 

[reelfountain]

I'm not a statistician but I'm guessing many immigrants have less opportunity for sex, are more likely to be accused, and less likely to get away with anything because their details are on the books. I believe most people don't hurt others.

Regarding solutions, seeing how prejudicial it is to label groups of people. Seeing the good things immigrants bring, their culture, their creations, their services, and the unique goods that come from distant lands we couldn't live without. Looking at European history, farther back, farther back, and realising that most European persons have Middle Eastern, Baltic and African genes at least, the earth having been colonised in that direction. Therefore seeing ourselves through our ancestors as immigrants. Seeing how much we all have in common and being willing to tolerate difference; to teach and learn from, each other. Deciding not to be haters.

Yes, but it has to work both ways.

 

[URBANUS]

Crime in Germany is traditionally much lower generally than in the UK, where it's pretty high. Stop making excuses for rape and sex attacks you freak.

Swedish prime minister today announced more severe sentencing for rape crimes in the wake of the countrys struggle to cope with the increasing problems generated by immigrants.

The elephant in the room was never mentioned of course. Afghan and Morocco youths are running wild on the streets of Stockholm causing mayhem.

 

[bhops]

I'm not a statistician but I'm guessing many immigrants have less opportunity for sex, are more likely to be accused, and less likely to get away with anything because their details are on the books. I believe most people don't hurt others.

Regarding solutions, seeing how prejudicial it is to label groups of people. Seeing the good things immigrants bring, their culture, their creations, their services, and the unique goods that come from distant lands we couldn't live without. Looking at European history, farther back, farther back, and realising that most European persons have Middle Eastern, Baltic and African genes at least, the earth having been colonised in that direction. Therefore seeing ourselves through our ancestors as immigrants. Seeing how much we all have in common and being willing to tolerate difference; to teach and learn from, each other. Deciding not to be haters.

Again please see my previous post, I am not anti immigration but I do believe passionately in controlled immigration with the ability to thoroughly vet who is coming into your country. I get all the good things an immigrant brings to a new country but you must surely take into consideration some of the negatives as well. You might not be a statistician but surely even if we take Charlie’s 50% stat that MUST ring a few alarm bells??? I wouldn’t care if the group we are discussing is from either the Middle East or Mars, if they are brown or white, rich of poor, a statistic of 50% as far as sexual harassment goes particularly from a small percentage of the population requires further investigation.

 

[BrummieBoy]

Victim blaming Rapp? You mean the gay 14-year-old that was alone in Kevin Spacey's house and willingly entered his bedroom, then years later cried out for attention to help his flagging career?
None of the Hollywood stories are yet fact. It's a historically dirty industry full of disgusting, hypocritical and morally-defunct people - be they actors or producers. We simply don't know for sure exactly what happened in any of these cases yet.
If Morrissey is such a rape apologist, why is concerned about the 1,200 women that were raped by migrants across Germany on the night of New Years Eve 15/16 and the current high rape levels that continue there?
Or are the rapes in German/Sweden too politically inconvenient to be taken seriously, or even discussed? Perhaps sexual assaults in Hollywood align with a more correct political agenda.
Me, I don't care about political agendas. I despise them. And so does Morrissey. But evidently people so intelligent and well read as yourself don't.

Your inability to use the Reply & Quote function is indicative of your mental disarray.

Your shameful attribution of guilt and blame to a 14 year old boy subjected to unwelcome & uninvited sexual attention by an adult is absolutely disgusting.

Conflating Morrissey's absurd baiting of Rapp with the sexual abuse of adult females in a public space is beyond delusional.

If 'we' don't know for sure what happened, how does Morrissey? And what the f*** gives him the right to pontificate and claim a special insight into the situation that unfolded? How can he possibly claim to understand Rapp's state of mind, level of awareness of predatory sexuality and on that spurious basis retrospectively condemn Rapp?

Morrissey is a totally disgusting human being if he does not retract this slur. And so are you for rimming his arse clean. It hasn't worked. You've just got shit on your lips and a brown-nose.

Shameful