"As a black teenager, I loved Morrissey. But heaven knows..." - Guardian article by Joshua Surtees

Going by how many anti-Corbyn articles the Guardian managed to publish after he was first elected leader, I suspect they've got about another 150 of these anti-Morrissey pieces in the pipeline...

As a black teenager, I loved Morrissey. But heaven knows I’m miserable now - Opinion / The Guardian
By Joshua Surtees
I used to defend Morrissey against accusations of racism. Now I feel betrayed by his support for bigots like Tommy Robinson

(And it's some top class trolling, using "Heaven Knows..." in the article title, given how much they know Morrissey hates that and "Bigmouth" being used in headlines.)

This is never going to end unless Morrissey backtracks/apologises. Which means: this is never going to end.

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[GodEmperorMorrissey]

But you and a few others are literally promoting racism. All of this about different races having different IQ's is literally racism.
You don't have to actually be knocking someone in the head to be a racist.

You're refusing to acknowledge reality. Race and IQ exists to what degree is debatable and needs more dialogue and research for sure but aside from that angle the other factor is Western culture and society has produced higher IQ's through better parenting, schooling and a more advanced civilization( Isn't that part of the reason you open border ideologues say we need to let everyone in?). Mass immigration is lowering the IQ and quality of life for European/Western countries. I believe a study shows that German average IQ dropped what was it 5% or 10% in ONE generation.

 

[reelfountain]

Look, I made the "retarded" comment because I couldn't resist but you seem more hateful than stupid. But do you really think @GodEmperorMorrissey has an impressive IQ?

Yes. And if you think I'm hateful simply because I am proud of my culture and heritage, you are more ignorant than I even presumed. What's hateful about that?

 

[The Truth]

Every test ever taken proved that races have differing IQs. The highest is East Asians. If I was a racist I would be lying and saying whites are the brainiest.

Went through this extensively in another thread. These tests can't ever be definitive proof. That isn't how science works.
But the fact that you're not saying "whites are the brainiest" doesn't prove you're not a racist. The fact that you divide people by race and cling to this idea that IQ is related to race is racism.

 

[reelfountain]

Went through this extensively in another thread. These tests can't ever be definitive proof. That isn't how science works.
But the fact that you're not saying "whites are the brainiest" doesn't prove you're not a racist. The fact that you divide people by race and cling to this idea that IQ is related to race is racism.

All races have different traits and mental and physical capabilities. To pretend this isn't so is ridiculous. It's beyond liberal delusion. Are all breeds of dogs the same too?

 

[The Truth]

Yes. And if you think I'm hateful simply because I am proud of my culture and heritage, you are more ignorant than I even presumed. What's hateful about that?

It's great that you're proud of your culture. That is not why I say you're hateful. I think you're hateful because you write nonsense about "dogs must sense something about black people." And that's actually sort of humorous. Some of the things you write wishing violence on people is really awful and I can feel the excitement you get saying these things.

 

[The Truth]

All races have different traits and mental and physical capabilities. To pretend this isn't so is ridiculous. It's beyond liberal delusion. Are all breeds of dogs the same too?

Do you think every "white" person is the same?

 

[reelfountain]

It's great that you're proud of your culture. That is not why I say you're hateful. I think you're hateful because you write nonsense about "dogs must sense something about black people." And that's actually sort of humorous. Some of the things you write wishing violence on people is really awful and I can feel the excitement you get saying these things.

I have only ever wished violence upon people who have committed atrociously violent acts themselves - as you well know. Never innocent people.

 

[The Truth]

I have only ever wished violence upon people who have committed atrociously violent acts themselves - as you well know. Never innocent people.

That isn't true and if I were stupid enough to go look through your hundreds of posts in the past week when I found an example you'd say that you were joking and liberals have no sense of humor.

 

[reelfountain]

Do you think every "white" person is the same?

'Whites' share traits. They can't run very fast for example. Blacks, generally, can. That's a very simplistic example. Japanese people are less violent and have a higher impulse control than say, those from the Congo.

 

[GodEmperorMorrissey]

Went through this extensively in another thread. These tests can't ever be definitive proof. That isn't how science works.
But the fact that you're not saying "whites are the brainiest" doesn't prove you're not a racist. The fact that you divide people by race and cling to this idea that IQ is related to race is racism.

No it's not. Racism for one is a pretty new word that keeps moving it's goalpost to maintain it's power. The wizardry is not working anymore. It is not "racism" or hateful to recognize differences in other peoples and cultures. Especially adding in religious beliefs. You're the one who divides people into categories. You even divide them by sexual desires. You use words like racism to hide behind facing an articulate argument

 

[Verso]

Truth, you’re debating with someone who “likes” posts about racism being natural, someone who trolls by posting pictures of Hitler and jokes about Zyklon-B, someone who wishes genocide on whites who “talk and act black”...the list goes on and on. Reelfountain is a repugnant moron with some serious mental deficiencies, don’t waste your breath on her.

 

[The Truth]

No it's not. Racism for one is a pretty new word that keeps moving it's goalpost to maintain it's power. The wizardry is not working anymore. It is not "racism" or hateful to recognize differences in other peoples and cultures. Especially adding in religious beliefs. You're the one who divides people into categories. You even divide them by sexual desires. You use words like racism to hide behind facing an articulate argument

It's time for your nap. This makes no sense.

 

[reelfountain]

That isn't true and if I were stupid enough to go look through your hundreds of posts in the past week when I found an example you'd say that you were joking and liberals have no sense of humor.

Liberals don't have any sense of humour, true. Life to them is one hysterical tantrum about Trump.

 

[The Truth]

Truth, you’re debating with someone who “likes” posts about racism being natural, someone who trolls by posting pictures of Hitler and jokes about Zyklon-B, someone who wishes genocide on whites who “talk and act black”...the list goes on and on. Reelfountain is a repugnant moron with some serious mental deficiencies, don’t waste your breath on her.

I know. I had a giant coffee and I'm between appointments but it's about time to go.

 

[Anonymous]

... I believe a study shows that German average IQ dropped what was it 5% or 10% in ONE generation.

You make a reasoned argument in the rest of your post but,please, don't rely on your beliefs.Investigate the facts and the sources.
All the best!

 

[reelfountain]

Truth, you’re debating with someone who “likes” posts about racism being natural, someone who trolls by posting pictures of Hitler and jokes about Zyklon-B, someone who wishes genocide on whites who “talk and act black”...the list goes on and on. Reelfountain is a repugnant moron with some serious mental deficiencies, don’t waste your breath on her.

Like all liberals you're still in a sulk from Trump being voted in two years ago.

I'm still celebrating!

 

[The Truth]

Liberals don't have any sense of humour, true. Life to them is one hysterical tantrum about Trump.

This isn't your best work.

 

[reelfountain]

This isn't your best work.

Another Zyklon B joke?

 

[The Truth]

'Whites' share traits. They can't run very fast for example. Blacks, generally, can. That's a very simplistic example. Japanese people are less violent and have a higher impulse control than say, those from the Congo.

You're crazy with this mess, and I mean that generally in a simplistic way.

 

[GodEmperorMorrissey]

It's time for your nap. This makes no sense.

Look up the history of the word racism dipshit, makes perfect sense. Acknowledging differences between people is not hate or supremacy it's recognizing reality