Is Born to Harangue as serious as they say?

I set my old phone back to factory settings to see if I could download Jeopardy! episodes on it without having to put my new phone at risk of viruses. But before I did that, I was able to take pictures of these two drawings that I drew in an app on the phone in June last year. I know they look like a child’s crude finger paintings, but in my defence, I hadn’t drawn anything on my phone before and I hadn’t drawn anything at all in about 13 years!

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Then I remembered I emailed this Bandlab recording to myself a few weeks ago, which also dates from June last year. Again, in my defence, when I recorded this I had only been using Bandlab for two days and still wasn’t entirely sure how it worked, so I was just hitting all the keys and drum pads and hoping for the best. I conceived it as a Frank Zappa parody hence the “hungry freaks, daddy” at the end, but I didn’t have the ability to pull that parody off and it sounds nothing like him (I had been thinking along the lines of ‘Ruth Underwood going crazy on the xylophone during Zappa’s concerts’). I showed it to someone around the time I made it and they described it to me as “the worst piece of music I’ve ever heard”. :blushing:



not bad at all.
 
GTA V’s 10 year anniversary recently passed so here’s my ranking of the main GTA titles:

1. GTA IV (2008) - 5 STARS
2. GTA Vice City (2002) - 5 STARS
3. GTA III (2001) - 4.5 STARS
4. GTA V (2013) - 4.5 STARS (excluding GTA Online)
5. GTA San Andreas (2004) - 4.25 STARS
6. GTA 2 (1999) - 3.75 STARS
7. GTA 1 (1997) - 3.25 STARS

My experience with each: Sometime around October 1999 my uncle, who’s 8 years older than me, told me all about GTA 2 and advised me to buy it. He was living with my family at the time and I remember specifically we were sitting at the kitchen table watching ‘Monday Night Raw’ (on a Friday night which is when it was shown here) when he explained the premise of the game to me, and I was intrigued by what I heard. I probably rented it a few times over the next couple of months and then according to my childhood diary which I looked through recently I bought the game on January 8th 2000. I also rented GTA 1/GTA London during that period which felt like a step down from GTA 2, so I only played them that one time and didn’t rent them again.

Fast forward to two or three days before Hallowe’en 2001 and a few friends and I were collecting wood for a bonfire. The cousin of one of my friends was there and he began telling me about GTA 3 which had just been released. He informed me it was in 3D rather than a top-down view and that you could headbutt people and all this type of thing; I’m sure I tried to keep my composure but I was brimming with excitement. My fondest memories of GTA 3 are playing it on a portable television on my grandmother’s kitchen table. ‘Fade Away’ by Craig Grey is the most evocative/nostalgic song from that game for me.

Vice City was announced seven months later and was the first game of the series that I was aware of ahead of time and actively anticipated its release; buying €7 PlayStation magazines just to see two or three new pictures of it. When it came out in October 2002 I took the day off school so I could play it; I had just moved house and started secondary school the month prior. Its soundtrack was a formative influence on my taste in music. I played it for months. For Christmas that year I got the game ‘The Getaway’ which only held my interest for a short amount of time before I switched back to Vice City.

By the time October 2004 rolled around I had lost interest in video games in general and I wasn’t especially enthusiastic about the release of San Andreas. On the day it came out I was apathetic enough about it that I went soccer training that evening instead of staying home to play it. It simply arrived at the wrong time for me. Throughout 2003 and most of 2004 I had been listening to a lot of rap music, buying CDs, Hip Hop magazines, DVDs about rap feuds, listening to Hip Hop radio shows and recording them onto cassettes, watching ‘Boyz n the Hood’, and so on. Then along came San Andreas which was inspired by that whole culture but at that stage I was already mentally moving on from it. My feeling at the time was ‘this music is saying nothing to me about my life’, over a year before I knew who Morrissey was. If San Andreas had come out six months earlier I might have much fonder memories of it, but I couldn’t get into it the way I could with the two previous games.

GTA IV, in contrast, arrived at the perfect time. Because of my experience with San Andreas I was unsure about whether I wanted to buy it right up until the night before it came out. I sat up until the early hours of the morning waiting for gameplay footage to be uploaded to YouTube because every video was being taken down due to copyright strikes. Finally I found a video of the protagonist riding a motorcycle, crashing into a bus stop and leaving a blood stain on the glass with his head, and I decided I had to buy it. I bought it early the next day; I was 18 and it was the first GTA game I could legally buy. Around this time I had been dissatisfied with the music I was listening to, I was ready to branch out from 90s alternative rock and to hear something new but I wasn’t sure what I was looking for or how to go about it. This game’s soundtrack shaped my taste in music the way Vice City had; even more so.


GTA IV got a bad rap at the time because it wasn’t as cartoonish and ‘fun’ as San Andreas but I loved everything about it: the setting, the grittiness, the main character, the soundtrack, all the small details that were put into it. I’m not much of a gamer, I haven’t owned a console in years and haven’t played anything from many of the most popular gaming franchises out there such as Call of Duty, Final Fantasy, Assassin’s Creed, so this statement probably doesn’t mean much but I consider GTA IV my favourite game of all time.

GTA V, again, like San Andreas, came along at the wrong time for me. I had just started at university in 2013 when it was released. I was taking literature modules and reading 19th century authors that semester, and there was a disconnect when I tried playing GTA V. I felt like I shouldn’t be playing it, that there were better uses for my time. I still bought it in HMV on its day of release despite some reluctance, and it came with a big rolled up poster which I believe I took although I was embarrassed to be seen with it. I played the game on and off for a few weeks before tiring of it, but eventually came back to it, particularly in 2016 when I reached level 150-ish on GTA Online before my PS3 broke down (which I bought on the day GTA IV came out in 2008).

Now after ten years I’m waiting to read news about GTA VI, because I’m curious. It’ll likely be the first GTA main title that I don’t buy on its launch date since 2001 as there’s no chance that I’m paying €500 for a PS5. Waiting for five months for Vice City in 2002 felt like an eternity so if I had to wait three years back then, let alone ten like people who are anticipating VI now, I would have lost my life. If you’ve read this far I’m sorry you wasted your time because there was no particular point to these reminiscences (other than the fact that I haven’t been watching Jeopardy! and therefore had some extra time on my hands), but here’s five gold ‘wanted’ stars for your effort ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
 
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GTA V’s 10 year anniversary recently passed so here’s my ranking of the main GTA titles:

1. GTA IV (2008) - 5 STARS
2. GTA Vice City (2002) - 5 STARS
3. GTA III (2001) - 4.5 STARS
4. GTA V (2013) - 4.5 STARS (excluding GTA Online)
5. GTA San Andreas (2004) - 4.25 STARS
6. GTA 2 (1999) - 3.75 STARS
7. GTA 1 (1997) - 3.25 STARS

My experience with each: Sometime around October 1999 my uncle, who’s 8 years older than me, told me all about GTA 2 and advised me to buy it. He was living with my family at the time and I remember specifically we were sitting at the kitchen table watching ‘Monday Night Raw’ (on a Friday night which is when it was shown here) when he explained the premise of the game to me, and I was intrigued by what I heard. I probably rented it a few times over the next couple of months and then according to my childhood diary which I looked through recently I bought the game on January 8th 2000. I also rented GTA 1/GTA London during that period which felt like a step down from GTA 2, so I only played them that one time and didn’t rent them again.

Fast forward to two or three days before Hallowe’en 2001 and a few friends and I were collecting wood for a bonfire. The cousin of one of my friends was there and he began telling me about GTA 3 which had just been released. He informed me it was in 3D rather than a top-down view and that you could headbutt people and all this type of thing; I’m sure I tried to keep my composure but I was brimming with excitement. My fondest memories of GTA 3 are playing it on a portable television on my grandmother’s kitchen table. ‘Fade Away’ by Craig Grey is the most evocative/nostalgic song from that game for me.

Vice City was announced seven months later and was the first game of the series that I was aware of ahead of time and actively anticipated its release; buying €7 PlayStation magazines just to see two or three new pictures of it. When it came out in October 2002 I took the day off school so I could play it; I had just moved house and started secondary school the month prior. Its soundtrack was a formative influence on my taste in music. I played it for months. For Christmas that year I got the game ‘The Getaway’ which only held my interest for a short amount of time before I switched back to Vice City.

By the time October 2004 rolled around I had lost interest in video games in general and I wasn’t especially enthusiastic about the release of San Andreas. On the day it came out I was apathetic enough about it that I went soccer training that evening instead of staying home to play it. It simply arrived at the wrong time for me. Throughout 2003 and most of 2004 I had been listening to a lot of rap music, buying CDs, Hip Hop magazines, DVDs about rap feuds, listening to Hip Hop radio shows and recording them onto cassettes, watching ‘Boyz n the Hood’, and so on. Then along came San Andreas which was inspired by that whole culture but at that stage I was already mentally moving on from it. My feeling at the time was ‘this music is saying nothing to me about my life’, over a year before I knew who Morrissey was. If San Andreas had come out six months earlier I might have much fonder memories of it, but I couldn’t get into it the way I could with the two previous games.

GTA IV, in contrast, arrived at the perfect time. Because of my experience with San Andreas I was unsure about whether I wanted to buy it right up until the night before it came out. I sat up until the early hours of the morning waiting for gameplay footage to be uploaded to YouTube because every video was being taken down due to copyright strikes. Finally I found a video of the protagonist riding a motorcycle, crashing into a bus stop and leaving a blood stain on the glass with his head, and I decided I had to buy it. I bought it early the next day; I was 18 and it was the first GTA game I could legally buy. Around this time I had been dissatisfied with the music I was listening to, I was ready to branch out from 90s alternative rock and to hear something new but I wasn’t sure what I was looking for or how to go about it. This game’s soundtrack shaped my taste in music the way Vice City had; even more so.


GTA IV got a bad rap at the time because it wasn’t as cartoonish and ‘fun’ as San Andreas but I loved everything about it: the setting, the grittiness, the main character, the soundtrack, all the small details that were put into it. I’m not much of a gamer, I haven’t owned a console in years and haven’t played anything from many of the most popular gaming franchises out there such as Call of Duty, Final Fantasy, Assassin’s Creed, so this statement probably doesn’t mean much but I consider GTA IV my favourite game of all time.

GTA V, again, like San Andreas, came along at the wrong time for me. I had just started at university in 2013 when it was released. I was taking literature modules and reading 19th century authors that semester, and there was a disconnect when I tried playing GTA V. I felt like I shouldn’t be playing it, that there were better uses for my time. I still bought it in HMV on its day of release despite some reluctance, and it came with a big rolled up poster which I believe I took although I was embarrassed to be seen with it. I played the game on and off for a few weeks before tiring of it, but eventually came back to it, particularly in 2016 when I reached level 150-ish on GTA Online before my PS3 broke down (which I bought on the day GTA IV came out in 2008).

Now after ten years I’m waiting to read news about GTA VI, because I’m curious. It’ll likely be the first GTA main title that I don’t buy on its launch date since 2001 as there’s no chance that I’m paying €500 for a PS5. Waiting for five months for Vice City in 2002 felt like an eternity so if I had to wait three years back then, let alone ten like people who are anticipating VI now, I would have lost my life. If you’ve read this far I’m sorry you wasted your time because there was no particular point to these reminiscences (other than the fact that I haven’t been watching Jeopardy! and therefore had some extra time on my hands), but here’s five gold ‘wanted’ stars for your effort ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

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If Rockstar Games hired me to come up with parody names of companies for them, the first one I’d give them would be a parody of Uber called ‘Luber’ which would have the company tagline “Slide right in” :blushing:
 
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If Rockstar Games hired me to come up with parody names of companies for them, the first one I’d give them would be a parody of Uber called ‘Luber’ which would have the company tagline “Slide right in” :blushing:
I think it's not good for you to live on your own like that in a shack in the middle of nowhere at your age! It's time you settled down with a nice girl! Your minds going to pot!!!!
 
I’m an FKA twigs enjoyer. Below is the song that got me into her music a few years ago. I loved the fusion of Frozen era Madonna with modern trap beats. She sings beautifully and her visuals are always captivating. The one thing I’m not so enamoured with is that her latest songs have too many featured artists, but the features are worth sitting through to get back to the twigs parts. What a talent she is :hearteyes:

 
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look how handsome the two on the bottom of the screen are, honey bunny!!! i swear if they dont look like two medieval knights, brave and true! :hearteyes:

 
honey bunny doesnt it like it when i post handsome intellectual men in his thread! i think it makes him feel diminished! light housework doesnt mind when i post things in her thread!
 
I’m an FKA twigs enjoyer. Below is the song that got me into her music a few years ago. I loved the fusion of Frozen era Madonna with modern trap beats. She sings beautifully and her visuals are always captivating. The one thing I’m not so enamoured with is that her songs have too many featured artists, but the features are worth sitting through to get back to the twigs parts. What a talent she is :hearteyes:


dumb!
 

Aww honey bunny, are you one of those people who needs to have ‘profundity’ spoonfed to them and can’t see any value in a piece of music unless you get the immediate impression of ‘depth’ from it? FKA twigs’ music is intelligent in abstract ways, like a Mondrian painting, let’s say! At first you might think “what’s the point of this”, but after a short while you begin appreciating what she’s doing and extracting meaning from it.

A worse move would be if she was trying to make rock music in 2023, that’s what Willow Smith does and it sounds pleasant enough but it’s nearly impossible to be innovative in that genre any more, it went as far as it could go. Maybe you’ll think this song sounds less dumb because it’s more conventional:



I might have misunderstood what you were getting at with “dumb” though and perhaps you’d like to go into detail regarding what was disagreeable to you about the twigs video I posted, so we can all see how insightful you are :D

i loved hulk hogan when i was little! i can see why, he's rad. ive always had good taste! i remember always wanting hulk hogan and real men dolls for christmas, and santa would always leave a note saying that he didnt have any left because he gave them to all the little boys :lbf:

Holy moly honey bunny, you’re really showing your age with this comment! When I began watching the WWF around 1994, Hulk Hogan was already gone from the company and was obliterating foes with the Legdrop of Doom in new surroundings down in Georgia. And here you are remembering The Hulkster in his prime; you’ve sure been on this earth for a loooong time! It’s wrong of me to be arguing with you, I have to start showing more respect towards my elders!
 
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Aww honey bunny, are you one of those people who needs to have ‘profundity’ spoonfed to them and can’t see any value in a piece of music unless you get the immediate impression of ‘depth’ from it? FKA twigs’ music is intelligent in abstract ways, like a Mondrian painting, let’s say! At first you might think “what’s the point of this”, but after a short while you begin appreciating what she’s doing and extracting meaning from it.

A worse move would be if she was trying to make rock music in 2023, that’s what Willow Smith does and it sounds pleasant enough but it’s nearly impossible to be innovative in that genre any more, it went as far as it could go. Maybe you’ll think this song sounds less dumb because it’s more conventional:



I might have misunderstood what you were getting at with “dumb” though and perhaps you’d like to go into detail regarding what was disagreeable to you about the twigs video I posted, so we can all see how insightful you are :D



Holy moly honey bunny, you’re really showing your age with this comment! When I began watching the WWF around 1994, Hulk Hogan was already gone from the company and was obliterating foes with the Legdrop of Doom in new surroundings down in Georgia. And here you are remembering The Hulkster in his prime; you’ve sure been on this earth for a loooong time! It’s wrong of me to be arguing with you, I have to start showing more respect towards my elders!

of course i am your elder, honey bunny! you know that! i was around four when my love for the hulk began. it didnt last very long. that wasnt the point of the story.

no of course, honey bunny, the twigs video was likely brilliant and ever so profound! you have an eye and ear for profundity of the subtle kind, whereas im only drawn to cheap splashy profundity. with your help maybe i can fix that. i think also i was just jealous because of your evident love for the dark skinned dames, knowing i could never compete with them in so many ways!

and IM SURE, honey bunny, that if i asked you to detail the ways in which a mondrian, since you used that as your basis for comparison, is brilliant and what the point of mondrian is and what meaning can be extracted from a mondrian, you would be able to do it NO TROUBLE, without having had any of the answers "spoon-fed" to you!! (say, by "googling" them)

i will DEFINITELY watch that willow smith video when i get time, honey bunny, just to honor the fact that you posted it!

and you can be SURE honey bunny that im writing twigs down as a noteable figure in my special "everything born to harangue" notebook for the next time you make a quiz ALL ABOUT YOU because i am determined to ACE it the next time!!!!
 
I don’t chase darker skinned dames, unlike you with your Mexicans! My honey bunny likes some hot tamales :mad:. Maybe you’d be kinder towards me in my thread if my last name was Rodriguez or Ramirez or Gonzalez. You might even call me your Latin lover and ask me to roll my Rs for you. “Oh Raúl, say that again”, you’d say.

I’m sure I could come up with a meaning for a Mondrian painting if I was shown one in particular and asked for my thoughts on it! You’re putting me on the spot here, since that’s not what I was even suggesting in my post! I was talking about twigs’ songs and about extracting our own meanings from abstract work, and that her music is intelligent in abstract ways, like a Mondrian painting is. I was speaking about artistic or creative intelligence not comparing their work in a literal sense, though that’s how you chose to take it in your attempt at a gotcha moment. But since we’re on the subject: I’m sure YOU could go into detail about the meaning that can be extracted from a Mondrian painting if I asked you, and you could do it no trouble and with no Google, since from the way you were typing it seemed like you feel as though you have some knowledge in the area. I would never put YOU on the spot and ask you to do that however (so you can breathe a sigh of relief, now nobody ever has to know whether you can do it or not 🤭).
 
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I don’t chase darker skinned dames, unlike you with your Mexicans! My honey bunny likes some hot tamales :mad:. Maybe you’d be kinder towards me in my thread if my last name was Rodriguez or Ramirez or Gonzalez. You might even call me your Latin lover and ask me to roll my Rs for you. “Oh Raúl, say that again”, you’d say.

I’m sure I could come up with a meaning for a Mondrian painting if I was shown one in particular and asked for my thoughts on it! You’re putting me on the spot here, since that’s not what I was even suggesting in my post! I was talking about twigs’ songs and about extracting our own meanings from abstract work, and that her music is intelligent in abstract ways, like a Mondrian painting is. I was speaking about artistic or creative intelligence not comparing their work in a literal sense, though that’s how you chose to take it in your attempt at a gotcha moment. But since we’re on the subject: I’m sure YOU could go into detail about the meaning that can be extracted from a Mondrian painting if I asked you, and you could do it no trouble and with no Google, since from the way you were typing it seemed like you feel as though you have some knowledge in the area. I would never put YOU on the spot and ask you to do that however (so you can breathe a sigh of relief, now nobody ever has to know whether you can do it or not 🤭).
i could do that, honey bunny, you bet i could! i have an innate feel for modern art! i understand it implicitly! it would only be a matter of finding the right words to convey that understanding. im a rather busy lady though so i cant really be bothered. you have the time though! what meaning can be extracted from this, honey bunny?! i only ask because i am sOOOoooOOoo interested in your feelings about modern art!!!

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Here’s what AI…I mean…here’s what *I* think is the meaning behind Mondrian’s paintings:

Sure! Mondrian's paintings are known for their abstract style and use of geometric shapes and primary colors. They represent a balance between nature and the modern world. Mondrian's paintings are all about simplicity and harmony. He believed that by reducing art to its basic elements of line, shape, and color, he could achieve a universal sense of balance and order. His use of straight lines and primary colors creates a sense of clarity and structure in his artworks. Overall, his paintings aim to capture the essence of the world in a pure and simplified form. Like FKA twigs’ music!

See honey bunny I told you I could do it, and no Googling either! :eyes:
 
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No, Born to Harangue is not as serious as they say. I read it somewhere, its not
 
This is the official Born to Harangue thread for all things Born to Harangue related 🎉. To see if you're eligible to post in this thread you must first take a Born to Harangue pop quiz. From the 24 points on offer in the quiz below, a score of at least 12 is required to pass. You may post your answers in the thread and I will PM you to let you know how well you scored :thumb:

Easy Born to Harangue questions (easy if you read my posts!!! :rage:)

1
. In which year was Born to Harangue born?
1974
2. What country is Born to Harangue from? (+ one bonus point for the correct city of birth)
Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso
3. What song/performance made Born to Harangue finally start loving Eurovision in 2012: a) Euphoria by Loreen b) Love Is Blind by Donny Montell c) Love Will Set You Free by Englebert Humperdinck d) Waterline by Jedward
Imagine making a quiz about yourself.
4. How many days of his Wordle streak is Born to Harangue approaching as of May 18th 2023: a) 300 b) 400 c) 500 d) 600
All the questions are written in the third person, too. Love it.
5. Which country was Born to Harangue vacationing in with his family when the 9/11 attacks occurred: a) Malta b) England c) France d) Spain
Great question.
6. When Born to Harangue was a child he repeatedly watched which band's music videos on videotape: a) Hall & Oates b) Madness c) The Smiths d) Duran Duran
Madness. Absolute f***ing madness.
7. What was Born to Harangue's favourite video game as a child: a) Zombies b) The Incredible Hulk c) The Revenge of Shinobi d) World Cup 98
Video game nerd, makes sense…
8. In which city was Born to Harangue's father born: a) Belfast b) Glasgow c) Birmingham d) New York
Birmingham, bound to be. Dullness begets dullness.
9. Which of these pop acts did Born to Harangue recently reveal that he's a fan of: a) The Chainsmokers b) Meghan Trainor c) Mariah Carey d) Taylor Dayne
You have such eclectic music tastes.
Harder Born to Harangue questions where you'll need to produce some of your finest guesswork:

10. Which song does Born to Harangue consider his favourite of all time: a) The Big Hurt by Miss Toni Fisher b) When Sly Calls by Michael Franks c) Dress Down by Kaoru Akimoto d) Invitation by Uhm Jung-hwa
So eclectic.
11. Which of these countries had Born to Harangue NOT visited with his family prior to 2002: a) Malta b) England c) France d) Spain
That’s twice you’ve mentioned your family. Look! Look! I’m not a lonely loser!
12. What was Born to Harangue's first ever favourite song: a) Missing by Everything But the Girl b) Saturday Night by Whigfield c) Spaceman by Babylon Zoo d) Waterfalls by TLC
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13. Which of these novels that Born to Harangue read in the early 2010s does he still consider his favourite: a) The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner b) Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov c) Steppenwolf by Herman Hesse d) The Plague by Albert Camus
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14. Which of these films that Born to Harangue watched in the early 2010s does he still consider his favourite: a) Bigger Than Life (dir. Nicholas Ray) b) The Earrings of Madame de... (dir. Max Ophüls) c) The Wizard of Oz (dir. Victor Fleming) d) Les Quatre Cents Coups (dir. François Truffaut)
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15. What was the first WWF Wrestlemania main event that Born to Harangue remembers watching: a) Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Lawrence Taylor (WM 11) b) Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (WM 12) c) Sycho Sid vs. The Undertaker (WM 13) d) Shawn Michaels vs. Steve Austin (WM 14)
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16. Which of these songs was #1 on the UK charts on the day Born to Harangue was born: a) It's a Sin by Pet Shop Boys b) Nothing's Gonna Change My Love for You by Glenn Medeiros c) Back to Life (However Do You Want Me) by Soul II Soul d) Sacrifice/Healing Hands by Elton John
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17. Which of these stone cold classics (LOL!) did Morrissey NOT perform at the first Morrissey concert Born to Harangue attended (in July 2011) a) Scandinavia b) The Kid's a Looker c) Action Is My Middle Name d) People Are the Same Everywhere
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18. What was the first professional soccer match that Born to Harangue attended as a spectator: a) Celtic vs. Dundee United (August 22nd 1998, Celtic Park) b) Manchester United vs. Crystal Palace (October 4th 1997, Old Trafford) c) Ireland vs. Croatia (September 5th 1998, Lansdowne Road) d) England vs. Argentina (June 30th 1998, Geoffroy-Guichard)
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19. Which Smiths video did Born to Harangue see on VH1 in January 2006 which caused him immediately to become a fan of The Smiths: a) What Difference Does It Make? b) This Charming Man c) Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before d) Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
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20. How old was Born to Harangue when he first had a girlfriend: a) 7 b) 9 c) 11 d) 13
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21. Of these songs that are in the top 10 on Born to Harangue's unpublished "favourite singles of 1998" list, which song is placed at #1: a) Roygbiv by Boards of Canada b) Mulder and Scully by Catatonia c) Sexy Boy by Air d) Stone Cold by Groove Chronicles
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And now the trivial question to end all trivial questions for which you will be awarded two points if you get the right answer:

22. Which of these reality TV stars did Born to Harangue walk past in an airport in 2002: a) Lemar Obika and Sinéad Quinn (Fame Academy) b) Brian Dowling and Narinder Kaur (Big Brother) c) Tara Palmer-Tomkinson and Uri Geller (I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here) d) Hear'Say (Popstars)
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