Strange/unexpected Moz references?

Morrissey performing onstage with The Smiths at Glasgow Barrowlands, 1985
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by Ross MacKenzie

 

‘We could be the biggest band of all time’: The fall of the Stone Roses, the group tipped to be the new Beatles​

The Manchester group was hailed in the late 1980s as the iconic British band for a disenchanted generation. When they released their second album 30 years ago, everything fell apart​

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Article by David Saavedra, Seville - NOV 09, 2024, EL Pais (UK)

...Manchester, 1980s​

YouTuber Víctor Amorín, on his Music Radar Clan channel, pointed out a factor that has not been talked about much. The Stone Roses were born in Manchester in the early 1980s at the same time as New Order and The Smiths. In fact, Peter Hook (of New Order) produced one of their first singles, Elephant Stone, and some of its members shared early groups with members of the Smiths. However, in 1989, when the Stone Roses’ first album was released, the Smiths had already developed their entire career and Morrissey had released his first solo album. Amorín’s thesis is that Ian Brown (vocals), John Squire (guitar), Gary “Mani” Mounfield (bass) and Alan “Reni” Wren (drums) were very ambitious, but were never willing to take on the responsibility of being ambitious. In other words, they had the attitude, but lacked the work ethic that others of their generation possessed. They were able to arouse the curiosity of the British media, but they did not live up to expectations.

Why did U.K. music critics place so much hope in them in the late 1980s? “Everything was exaggerated, because it was a time when the media was looking for someone to occupy the throne that the Smiths had left vacant,” notes music critic Carlos Pérez de Ziriza...
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https://english.elpais.com/culture/...s-the-group-tipped-to-be-the-new-beatles.html
 
ZOOM FROM GLOOM said:
well they’ve seem to have edited it, so, just not sure, maybe they recorded it before his donation was made public. Still surprised Marr hasn’t chipped in, maybe should have said yes to that reunion if he’s skint.
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Marr could have donated but asked not to have it made public?

Prince used to donate to many charities and causes but with the stipulation it was not to be revealed who the donation was from.
After he passed it all came out just how generous he was privately.

He also set up Live4Love charity with his second wife, and that is still continuing.
 
goinghome said:
Thanks, April Snow.

The possibility of something new being done with The Queen Is Dead will cause ears to prick up.

On Super Vinyl already existing, how does that work? Presumably the turntable must be 'smart'? And the records have somehow been digitally enabled? I'll have to snoop more closely next time I'm in a sound store!

Other issues have indeed been identified in relation to the high vinyl prices, with supply chain troubles getting mentioned but in particular, a constantly rising demand that the industry wasn't prepared for.

"...The rising cost of vinyl isn’t just about greedy execs trying to squeeze more pennies out of our pockets. It’s a complex mix of factors that’s driving up prices such as:
  • Production costs have increased significantly. The raw materials, especially PVC, have seen huge price hikes. Add to that the labor-intensive nature of vinyl production and a shortage of skilled workers, and you’ve got a recipe for higher manufacturing costs.
  • There’s a severe imbalance between supply and demand. The vinyl comeback caught the industry with its pants down, leading to a shortage of operational pressing plants. This bottleneck allows existing manufacturers to charge premium prices, and who can blame them?
  • Vinyl is now treated as a premium product rather than a mass-market item. Many of us view vinyl as more than just a way to listen to music – it’s a collectible, a piece of art. Because of this, labels now use better materials and fancier packaging, which are just additional costs.
  • The market has shown a willingness to bear these high prices. Despite the price hikes, sales are still increasing. So, labels and retailer don’t really see a reason to tone it down, yet..."
- https://www.headphonesty.com/2024/08/issue-stopping-vinyl-revival-reaching-peak/
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Exactly, that was why I was replying to the other poster that the costs to manufacture vinyl are very expensive & there are also audiophile houses making premium products too - such as Analaogue Productions, Speakers Corner, Mofi, Impex Records & even Rhino (Warners) have now stepped in to start making Audiophile records under their "High Fidelity" banner. I recently purchased their "American Beauty" (Grateful Dead) , it was $90 Aussie dollars, a numbered edition with a limited run of 5000 copies.

I also picked up Analogue Productions Phil Collins "Face Value" recently and that was $120 Aussie Dollars but for that you are getting a album spread over 2 x discs at 45rpm & a Stoughton Gatefold Jacket, so premium product in both physical and audio quality as these were mastered from the original analogue tapes (not digital sourced). All that costs $ and you expect to pay for this.

But what I am noticing is that standard albums are creeping up and have doubled in price over the last 2 years - and even CDs too.

I suspect the low cost of streaming is crippling the funds for the labels so they are hiking prices up for those that prefer the physical medium to keep the doors open? I was paying $35 two years ago for a standard regular LP but now it is $50 on Amazon or $70 in a bricks & mortar store.
The new Lenny Kravtiz was $80! Taylor Swifts latest LP was $89. So it is getting out of hand somewhere along the line & much talk amongst vinyl enthusiasts about the rising costs but of course we notice this with all things as well, look at the price of groceries !!

I have been an audiophile for a few years now & belong to an audiophile club here in Australia and these things are often in discussion in our meetups amongst those of us who are mostly vinyl enthusiasts. It is what lead me here - I used to see "The Queen is Dead" getting played a lot but did not know the album or The Smiths, so decided to buy a first original pressing of it and fell in love with it and hence been hunting and gathering all of the Smiths/Moz LPs and 12 inch Singles since........................

Music is such a wondeful gift for mankind and it does not really matter how you consume it of course. Nobody forces me to buy a physical medium of course, just it is my preference and my audio system is setup for it. But I admit the pricing on new vinyl makes me consider every purchase now more carefully.

Super Vinyl - is pure vinyl without any impurities - if you hold it up to the light you can see through it. I have a couple of them in my collection,
they have a lower noise floor to regular vinyl, a lot of Japanese pressings are similar. It was not just Mofi doing it, but they are more known for it.

MoFi SuperVinyl is a new proprietary compound developed by NEOTECH and RTI to address two specific areas of improvement: noise floor reduction and enhanced groove definition. The vinyl composition features a new carbonless dye (hold the disc up to the light and see) and produces the world's quietest surfaces.
 
all over Baltimore .. some hope and some despair
 
Slight morrissey mention in Gillespie's interview with Uncut. Not sure if this is already on here.
www.uncut.co.uk

Bobby Gillespie: "I’m trying to work out what you do with a band that's been going as long as we have"

An extended interview with Primal Scream frontman Bobby Gillespie on the band's new studio album, Come Ahead
www.uncut.co.uk www.uncut.co.uk

Come Ahead’s cover photo is of your late dad. Is this record for him?

Well, I’ll tell you. When we were researching album titles, I had a few that were a bit serious – we might have called it Manichean Times. But I thought Come Ahead works on a variety of levels. If somebody challenges you they say, ‘Come ahead’. And also, I’m not Miles Davis – far from it – but Miles had Miles Ahead, and it’s quite a cheeky title. And when I was looking for photographs for Tenement Kid, my mum had these photographs of her and my dad the year before I was born, 1960. My dad looked half Teddy Boy, half Mod, and I thought, ‘Man, that’s a really powerful image.’ Also a lot of the things I sing about on the record and my attitudes and feelings about things come from my upbringing with my dad. He was all for social justice. Some of those themes were in the record, and it all came together. I just thought it was a great rock and roll picture for the cover – Morrissey would die for that! – and a good rock’n’roll title. We’re saying, we’re still here and we’re still rocking. The Scream are rolling on and we’ve made a record we’re very proud of. It’s the kind of songs and music we should be making at this point in our career. I think I’m getting better and Andrew’s getting better. We’re doing our best.
 
sixteenpills said:
Slight morrissey mention in Gillespie's interview with Uncut. Not sure if this is already on here.
www.uncut.co.uk

Bobby Gillespie: "I’m trying to work out what you do with a band that's been going as long as we have"

An extended interview with Primal Scream frontman Bobby Gillespie on the band's new studio album, Come Ahead
www.uncut.co.uk www.uncut.co.uk

Come Ahead’s cover photo is of your late dad. Is this record for him?

Well, I’ll tell you. When we were researching album titles, I had a few that were a bit serious – we might have called it Manichean Times. But I thought Come Ahead works on a variety of levels. If somebody challenges you they say, ‘Come ahead’. And also, I’m not Miles Davis – far from it – but Miles had Miles Ahead, and it’s quite a cheeky title. And when I was looking for photographs for Tenement Kid, my mum had these photographs of her and my dad the year before I was born, 1960. My dad looked half Teddy Boy, half Mod, and I thought, ‘Man, that’s a really powerful image.’ Also a lot of the things I sing about on the record and my attitudes and feelings about things come from my upbringing with my dad. He was all for social justice. Some of those themes were in the record, and it all came together. I just thought it was a great rock and roll picture for the cover – Morrissey would die for that! – and a good rock’n’roll title. We’re saying, we’re still here and we’re still rocking. The Scream are rolling on and we’ve made a record we’re very proud of. It’s the kind of songs and music we should be making at this point in our career. I think I’m getting better and Andrew’s getting better. We’re doing our best.
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It is a great picture that fits perfectly into Morrissey’s aesthetic
 
sixteenpills said:
Slight morrissey mention in Gillespie's interview with Uncut. Not sure if this is already on here.
www.uncut.co.uk

Bobby Gillespie: "I’m trying to work out what you do with a band that's been going as long as we have"

An extended interview with Primal Scream frontman Bobby Gillespie on the band's new studio album, Come Ahead
www.uncut.co.uk www.uncut.co.uk

Come Ahead’s cover photo is of your late dad. Is this record for him?

Well, I’ll tell you. When we were researching album titles, I had a few that were a bit serious – we might have called it Manichean Times. But I thought Come Ahead works on a variety of levels. If somebody challenges you they say, ‘Come ahead’. And also, I’m not Miles Davis – far from it – but Miles had Miles Ahead, and it’s quite a cheeky title. And when I was looking for photographs for Tenement Kid, my mum had these photographs of her and my dad the year before I was born, 1960. My dad looked half Teddy Boy, half Mod, and I thought, ‘Man, that’s a really powerful image.’ Also a lot of the things I sing about on the record and my attitudes and feelings about things come from my upbringing with my dad. He was all for social justice. Some of those themes were in the record, and it all came together. I just thought it was a great rock and roll picture for the cover – Morrissey would die for that! – and a good rock’n’roll title. We’re saying, we’re still here and we’re still rocking. The Scream are rolling on and we’ve made a record we’re very proud of. It’s the kind of songs and music we should be making at this point in our career. I think I’m getting better and Andrew’s getting better. We’re doing our best.
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That's a rather 'random' Moz reference in an interview. Can't help but wonder did he mention Moz in the interview earlier but it was edited? I do like Primal Scream. The new album sounds very good. And that must be the same housing estate as in 'A Clockwork Orange'?

 
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