Strange/unexpected Moz references?



The "offensive misrepresentation" in a different language.
FWD.
 
goinghome said:
Russell said very little, only referring to the one incident as during a time when he was in Morrissey's favour. They just haven't been in touch and have been doing their separate things since. I don't think they ever hung out beyond the interview, and a few shows. Nothing more to read into this, imo ✨
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But Brand himself feels he fell out of ‘favor’. So there must have been something that happened. if Brand knows the reason why, he doesn’t say, maybe never will.
 
Nice article on the significance of the 80s, including a Smiths mention

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'Decades Of Sound': Pop Goes The 1980s - SPIN

The music of the 1980s reflected the era's sweeping cultural shifts and technological advancements, producing a diverse array of sounds and styles that continue to influence contemporary music. The music of the 1980s reflected the era's sweeping cultural shifts and technological advancements...
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Via Carmen:

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(It's also SER's birthday today).
 
I quite liked England Is Mine, though it would've had or held precious little interest for me if it weren't for the Morrissey/Smiths origins stuff; but why on Earth did it portray Moz's friend Anji as being so unlikeable (or similar)?
 
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Sometimes the best way of dealing with words intended to insult is to reclaim them and repurpose them. Or retweet them, as Rob did with this:
Robbie Williams looking like somebody has tried to draw Morrissey from memory.
‘Made me laugh,’ he says. ‘It’s also sort of “Ow!” But it made me laugh.’

Rob once nearly made an unlikely appearance with Morrissey. One version of the story is related in Morrissey’s notoriously capricious Autobiography:
Robbie Williams sticks two notes in my front door. His handwriting is so bad that I can only make out one central line that shouts ‘Let’s do something TOGETHER’. And then another note shouts out ‘I LIKE YOU!’ He fragments further with scattered lyrics from You Are The Quarry, adding, ‘If we sing together it would really confuse them’.
I am then invited to sing with Robbie at the upcoming Brit Awards, of which Robbie has somehow collected eighteen (it need hardly be said that my own award cabinet remains polished and empty). I politely refuse the request, but the ever diplomatic British tabloids jump in with MORRISSEY SNUBS ROBBIE. It is inconceivable to the press that a refusal could submit good terms and accord instead of sizzling spite.

Rob remembers a slightly different story. He’s not sure where the initial idea came from, but he was told that Morrissey wanted to duet if Rob would agree to Morrissey’s two stipulations: ‘We sing one of his songs, which was great, it’s a song called “I Like You”. And at the end he wanted to kiss like Britney and Madonna.’ Perhaps Morrissey imagined that this second request would automatically kill the idea, but of course Rob immediately agreed. ‘I was bang up for that. Kissing Morrissey! That would have been great. Because he’s just got, like, a fiercely brilliant face. You know, watching the idolatry that surrounds him, thousands and thousands of straight men I think would sleep with Morrissey. And I might not sleep with Morrissey but I’d have a cuddle and a kiss. It would have been amazing.’
But it was not to be.
‘I think he was probably maybe a bit bluffing. Maybe. But I wasn’t. I’d have wrestled him to the floor. And dominated him. I don’t even know if I’d get a kick out of thinking that he tried to call my bluff. But I’m un-bluffable when it comes to stuff like that. I think it might have been something that he considered that day, then quickly rescinded. Like he does.’
All that remains, instead, is the assessment of Rob that Morrissey gave to The Word magazine two years before that.
‘A fantastic quote about me,’ says Rob, ‘even though it was horrible.’
What Morrissey said was this: ‘Personally I think that almost everything about Robbie Williams is fantastic … apart from the voice and the songs. He seems to have everything in place, the photos are fantastic, he’s reasonably amusing, he’s undeterred and he’s not precious about what he does. I admire all of that.’
‘Except,’ Rob says, laughing, ‘the voice and the songs.’

"Reveal: Robbie Williams" by Chris Heath - a couple of Morrissey mentions.
FWD.
 
I think that both of them come out of that reasonably well: Robbie, commendably not taking himself too seriously & making plain his admiration of Morrissey; Moz, being generally positive about Robbie while nevertheless semi-politedly making clear that he has little time for RW's music. Morrissey could've simply said "It's not my kind of music" but then he would've denied himself the all-important quip. ;)
 
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Sometimes the best way of dealing with words intended to insult is to reclaim them and repurpose them. Or retweet them, as Rob did with this:
Robbie Williams looking like somebody has tried to draw Morrissey from memory.
‘Made me laugh,’ he says. ‘It’s also sort of “Ow!” But it made me laugh.’

Rob once nearly made an unlikely appearance with Morrissey. One version of the story is related in Morrissey’s notoriously capricious Autobiography:
Robbie Williams sticks two notes in my front door. His handwriting is so bad that I can only make out one central line that shouts ‘Let’s do something TOGETHER’. And then another note shouts out ‘I LIKE YOU!’ He fragments further with scattered lyrics from You Are The Quarry, adding, ‘If we sing together it would really confuse them’.
I am then invited to sing with Robbie at the upcoming Brit Awards, of which Robbie has somehow collected eighteen (it need hardly be said that my own award cabinet remains polished and empty). I politely refuse the request, but the ever diplomatic British tabloids jump in with MORRISSEY SNUBS ROBBIE. It is inconceivable to the press that a refusal could submit good terms and accord instead of sizzling spite.

Rob remembers a slightly different story. He’s not sure where the initial idea came from, but he was told that Morrissey wanted to duet if Rob would agree to Morrissey’s two stipulations: ‘We sing one of his songs, which was great, it’s a song called “I Like You”. And at the end he wanted to kiss like Britney and Madonna.’ Perhaps Morrissey imagined that this second request would automatically kill the idea, but of course Rob immediately agreed. ‘I was bang up for that. Kissing Morrissey! That would have been great. Because he’s just got, like, a fiercely brilliant face. You know, watching the idolatry that surrounds him, thousands and thousands of straight men I think would sleep with Morrissey. And I might not sleep with Morrissey but I’d have a cuddle and a kiss. It would have been amazing.’
But it was not to be.
‘I think he was probably maybe a bit bluffing. Maybe. But I wasn’t. I’d have wrestled him to the floor. And dominated him. I don’t even know if I’d get a kick out of thinking that he tried to call my bluff. But I’m un-bluffable when it comes to stuff like that. I think it might have been something that he considered that day, then quickly rescinded. Like he does.’
All that remains, instead, is the assessment of Rob that Morrissey gave to The Word magazine two years before that.
‘A fantastic quote about me,’ says Rob, ‘even though it was horrible.’
What Morrissey said was this: ‘Personally I think that almost everything about Robbie Williams is fantastic … apart from the voice and the songs. He seems to have everything in place, the photos are fantastic, he’s reasonably amusing, he’s undeterred and he’s not precious about what he does. I admire all of that.’
‘Except,’ Rob says, laughing, ‘the voice and the songs.’

"Reveal: Robbie Williams" by Chris Heath - a couple of Morrissey mentions.
FWD.
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I think the Dave Wakeling story is in Autobiography, which Dave told me himself and it's nothing like Morrissey's version (I believe the latter) and so now Dave rips Morrissey to shreds all the time because his version is basically proven untrue. He never told me he didn't like Morrissey when we talked about him but now he takes a shot at him every chance he gets.
 
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