Morrissey - Suedehead - track 1 - Saro's Spotify pride month playlist

Morrissey - Suedehead - Track 1 - Saro's Spotify Pride Month Playlist

Morrissey, "Suedehead"

"This song is reminiscent of one of the first sexual relationships I had. 'Why do you come here when you know it makes things hard for me?' To me, this song represents the aloofness or inability to commit that is the final line of defense protecting your heart from breaking."



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Ah throbbing gristle. Those people seem to be everywhere. Amusingly the psychic tv song above made me think of them and then there was a mention just a few posts down. they just did a best industrial list over at pitchfork which was pretty cool and as you can imagine they showed up a couple of times. Seems like the universe is trying to tell me I should listen to more of those great funk classics. I myself would’ve posted the songs androgynous and true trans soul rebel. I understand how important it is to promote lbgt artists and there work but I think it’s underestimated how important it is to promote the positive supportive songs straight people have written about lbgt folks. To promote empathy towards something different than yourself as the song androgynous does even at a possible risk to yourself or career. Madonna made her career in some ways appealing to lbgt fans but the replacements were playing to a lot of young straight males in a scene where lbgt people weren’t always welcomed (early Hollywood hardcore is the exception here). The influence those types of songs have is important. Against me is also a great one as I can’t think of many artists who had a fairly good career going and then transitioned. there career got boosted to by writing an album about it. That’s a great symbol of progress. I also think trans people get left out a bit of the conversation especially if you’re not tying gender to sexual preference. I think Morrissey would enjoy that

Androgynous is my favourite Replacements song!
I don't see Throbbing Gristle as a band that was interested in gender roles, even if Coum Transmissions (their performance group) was often very explicit about sex, but it was not really a LGTB oriented group (probably the glam albums of Bowie are by far more LGBT oriented than T G.).
The late Psychic TV moved a bit into that area... And Coil certainly was openly a gay band.

 

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Androgynous is my favourite Replacements song!
I don't see Throbbing Gristle as a band that was interested in gender roles, even if Coum Transmissions (their performance group) was often very explicit about sex, but it was not really a LGTB oriented group (probably the glam albums of Bowie are by far more LGBT oriented than T G.).
The late Psychic TV moved a bit into that area... And Coil certainly was openly a gay band.

I wasn’t talking about there, throbbing gristles, music but rather him and his transition when I mentioned gender as well as the fact that grace of against me who also transitioned stayed married to his/her wife (reminded me of morrisseys humasexual perspective). This to me makes them worthy of inclusion on a list even if throbbing gristles music isnt about gender. I don’t have a fav replacements song as I just find it impossible to choose. Laura Jane grace of against me did a cover of that song not to long ago with Joan Jett and miley Cyrus

 

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Androgynous is my favourite Replacements song!
I don't see Throbbing Gristle as a band that was interested in gender roles, even if Coum Transmissions (their performance group) was often very explicit about sex, but it was not really a LGTB oriented group (probably the glam albums of Bowie are by far more LGBT oriented than T G.).
The late Psychic TV moved a bit into that area... And Coil certainly was openly a gay band.

I have Wreckers of civilization.

it’s too bad, Cosey’s book really gives one insight to the real TG story and not the false one that Genesis has built up over the years, I beg you to read it, it’s a fun read too.

Coum/TG were not focused strictly as a LGTB band/project, but I'm sure we both can agree that they were actually
beyond that in their scope/exploration of sound and ideas that it inherently welcomes anyone that cares and dares to see the the world in a different
way, empowering and rewarding.


Edit... Trill troll triggered, not surprised.

 

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I have Wreckers of civilization.
it’s too bad, Cosey’s book really gives one insight to the real TG story and not the false one that Genesis has built up over the years, I beg you to read it, it’s a fun read too.
Coum/TG were not focused strictly as a LGTB band/project, but I'm sure we both can agree that they were actually
beyond that in their scope/exploration of sound and ideas that it inherently welcomes anyone that cares and dares to see the the world in a different
way, empowering and rewarding.
Edit... Trill troll triggered, not surprised.

Probable Cosey's book is interesting, though I assume I know which one is her version (i.e, that Genesis is a psychopath of sorts, which is mostly what every person who has worked with him has to say about him... and I know it's true. I like him as an artist though).
TG & Coum were not really focused on LGTB themes... Though obviously they didn't have any problem with it... Derek Jarman was almost a honorary fifth member (and then kept on collaborating with Coil and PTV)... Peter Christopherson was openly gay, etc. I simply meant that it was not truly their focus (whilst LGTB subjects somehow became the core of Coil, which is probably the most interesting band that emerged from TG).
It is nice how Coil has quoted The Smiths a few times. This one is my favourite:


Oh, yes... the trolls....

 

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Probable Cosey's book is interesting, though I assume I know which one is her version (i.e, that Genesis is a psychopath of sorts, which is mostly what every person who has worked with him has to say about him... and I know it's true. I like him as an artist though).
TG & Coum were not really focused on LGTB themes... Though obviously they didn't have any problem with it... Derek Jarman was almost a honorary fifth member (and then kept on collaborating with Coil and PTV)... Peter Christopherson was openly gay, etc. I simply meant that it was not truly their focus (whilst LGTB subjects somehow became the core of Coil, which is probably the most interesting band that emerged from TG).
It is nice how Coil has quoted The Smiths a few times. This one is my favourite:


Oh, yes... the trolls....

Yeah I’ve heard stories from people who have personally worked with him, didn’t really think much of it until I read her book. I agree, as an artist he’s certainly interesting and has done good work, it’s just unfortunate that he took credit for a lot of ideas that were never his, just glad that Cosey Chris and Peter set the record straight with her book.

 

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Yeah I’ve heard stories from people who have personally worked with him, didn’t really think much of it until I read her book. I agree, as an artist he’s certainly interesting and has done good work, it’s just unfortunate that he took credit for a lot of ideas that were never his, just glad that Cosey Chris and Peter set the record straight with her book.

He's a great artist... and somehow a control freak.
Then again, seeing him on a stage is fantastic.... but his personality is problematic.