MOJO Collector's Series 'The Smiths' new magazine out now

Spotted a stack of these in my local Tesco today. https://www.mojo4music.com/articles/stories/mojos-new-smiths-special-is-out-now/

Description / online purchase:

MOJO The Collectors’ Series: The Smiths – Hand In Glove 1982-1987
MOJO’s finest writing on The Smiths in a single deluxe volume.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Is this a list concerning popularity or sales, no because it includes the Fall;

because musically, Siouxsie and the Banshees are a far better and more influential band than
the Jam, Specials, the Fall, Stone roses, Suede, Oasis (please, I won't even go there), Blur
and they impacted in depth Joy Division, without mentioning their legacy that speaks volume.
very droll to not include them. but they are not for all the ears, and common people.
I don't know anyone into Oasis who also likes the Banshees, and vice versa, because that ain't possible. two different worlds and culture.

The Smiths are in the top 5 not only thanks to their impeccable run of singles but also due to the richness of material on the b-sides.

Not including Radiohead is not wise, a big mistake of taste for me

I do. And may I say, what a load of bollocks. Who cares if the worlds are completely different? It’s what moves you that matters. I love Frank Sinatra, but I also enjoy Einstürzende Neubauten and heavy European drone and dark ambient. Those worlds are as different as can be.

 

[9 x Fined]

This issue is free with an Apple News subscription. I couldn't get through the Smiths articles; I just feel they've been done to death. I mean, what else can be said?

I did enjoy the Viva Hate piece though and the 2004 Moz interview, the latter I think I had read before.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

ever listen to Ian William Craig? Beautiful music.

I haven’t! But will look him up this instant!

 

[SeniorLife]

Is this a list concerning popularity or sales, no because it includes the Fall;

because musically, Siouxsie and the Banshees are a far better and more influential band than
the Jam, Specials, the Fall, Stone roses, Suede, Oasis (please, I won't even go there), Blur
and they impacted in depth Joy Division, without mentioning their legacy that speaks volume.
very droll to not include them. but they are not for all the ears, and common people.
I don't know anyone into Oasis who also likes the Banshees, and vice versa, because that ain't possible. two different worlds and culture.

The Smiths are in the top 5 not only thanks to their impeccable run of singles but also due to the richness of material on the b-sides.

Not including Radiohead is not wise, a big mistake of taste for me

This is a genuine question, and not being snarky…so do you think Radiohead should be on the list?
Without a doubt they must. When Morrissey has taken all the tears I have left, I always have Radiohead to find a way to create more.

The Cure is to like ACTON as Radiohead is for me. (I say that respectfully ACTON)

Be well…

 

[SeniorLife]

Morrissey was so ahead of his time…this is an indisputable fact of opinion, if such a thing exists.

Oh how I wish I wasn’t just maybe 8 years older in the 80’s.

He was so ahead of his time, both in physical appearance and the style to his lyrics. It makes you wonder….will we be saying the same thing 30 years from now regarding his views (let’s not go straight to the hate, I’m referring to things such as the music industry, etc. NOT political views).

Be well all…let’s celebrate the fact that he’s just with us.

As for the magazine….nah…..now find me an untarnished fanzine from the 90’s and I’m there. Name the price.

 

[Redacted]

Morrissey is so photogenic

 

[Skinny'sBradfordMates]

Is this a list concerning popularity or sales, no because it includes the Fall;

because musically, Siouxsie and the Banshees are a far better and more influential band than
the Jam, Specials, the Fall, Stone roses, Suede, Oasis (please, I won't even go there), Blur
and they impacted in depth Joy Division, without mentioning their legacy that speaks volume.
very droll to not include them. but they are not for all the ears, and common people.
I don't know anyone into Oasis who also likes the Banshees, and vice versa, because that ain't possible. two different worlds and culture.

The Smiths are in the top 5 not only thanks to their impeccable run of singles but also due to the richness of material on the b-sides.

Not including Radiohead is not wise, a big mistake of taste for me

Siouxsie and the banshees far better and more influential than the Jam?

I don't think so and neither does hardly anyone who's into decent music.

Give your head a wobble

 

[1669 music.]

I'll just buy it for the pics., When we are younger we look different. I'll put lt on my center table of other cool collectors magazines.

 

[ACTON]

I wonder if it’ll be worth buying or if it’s just filled with rehashed stuff we’ve read to death already.

Guaranteed reheated old nuggets.

 

[ACTON]

Is this a list concerning popularity or sales, no because it includes the Fall;

because musically, Siouxsie and the Banshees are a far better and more influential band than
the Jam, Specials, the Fall, Stone roses, Suede, Oasis (please, I won't even go there), Blur
and they impacted in depth Joy Division, without mentioning their legacy that speaks volume.
very droll to not include them. but they are not for all the ears, and common people.
I don't know anyone into Oasis who also likes the Banshees, and vice versa, because that ain't possible. two different worlds and culture.

The Smiths are in the top 5 not only thanks to their impeccable run of singles but also due to the richness of material on the b-sides.

Not including Radiohead is not wise, a big mistake of taste for me

A very good friend of mine loves Oasis (the first few albums), Siouxsie, Moz, Joy Div, The Cure, Suede, Weller, The Jam, The Fall, The Beatles, among many other bands. None of it is mutually exclusive.

I like a lot of bands and am delving more and more into synth albums (Carpenter, Tang Dream, Isao Tomita, Hans Zimmer, Vangelis, etc.) but I still love Siouxsie etc but am not a keen Oasis fan (apart from the first few singles).

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

A very good friend of mine loves Oasis (the first few albums), Siouxsie, Moz, Joy Div, The Cure, Suede, Weller, The Jam, The Fall, The Beatles, among many other bands. None of it is mutually exclusive.

IMO, to mention Oasis or Radio head (though they’re better) in the same paragraph as the other artists you listed above should be a crime!

Suede (Anderson/Butler) were the best thing to come out of that ‘Britpop’ period. Yes we could spot their influences, but unlike the others, they did something new with it.

Besides Suede, the last interesting and original artists to come out of Britain, were Stereolab and more importantly My Bloody Valentine.

I like a lot of bands and am delving more and more into synth albums (Carpenter, Tang Dream, Isao Tomita, Hans Zimmer, Vangelis, etc.) but I still love Siouxsie etc but am not a keen Oasis fan (apart from the first few singles).

 

[Gregor Samsa]

IMO, to mention Oasis or Radio head (though they’re better) in the same paragraph as the other artists you listed above should be a crime!

Suede (Anderson/Butler) were the best thing to come out of that ‘Britpop’ period. Yes we could spot their influences, but unlike the others, they did something new with it.

Besides Suede, the last interesting and original artists to come out of Britain, were Stereolab and more importantly My Bloody Valentine.

Slowdive?

 

[ACTON]

IMO, to mention Oasis or Radio head (though they’re better) in the same paragraph as the other artists you listed above should be a crime!

Suede (Anderson/Butler) were the best thing to come out of that ‘Britpop’ period. Yes we could spot their influences, but unlike the others, they did something new with it.

Besides Suede, the last interesting and original artists to come out of Britain, were Stereolab and more importantly My Bloody Valentine.

Suede started Britpop and quickly and quite rightly disassociated themselves from it from the early days. I do think three other good groups sprang from Britpop: Elastica, Echobelly and Pulp (to a certain extent). Of course Elastica lasted a wet week. Echobelly are excellent, even still to this day.

Since Britpop not many great groups have emerged from Britain and I'm embarrased to say I can't think of any. Perhaps Richard Hawley.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Suede started Britpop and quickly and quite rightly disassociated themselves from it from the early days. I do think three other good groups sprang from Britpop: Elastica, Echobelly and Pulp (to a certain extent). Of course Elastica lasted a wet week. Echobelly are excellent, even still to this day.

Since Britpop not many great groups have emerged from Britain and I'm embarrased to say I can't think of any. Perhaps Richard Hawley.

The Libertines were amazing. Their first two albums are modern masterpieces or close enough.

 

[Skinny'sBradfordMates]

Suede started Britpop and quickly and quite rightly disassociated themselves from it from the early days. I do think three other good groups sprang from Britpop: Elastica, Echobelly and Pulp (to a certain extent). Of course Elastica lasted a wet week. Echobelly are excellent, even still to this day.

Since Britpop not many great groups have emerged from Britain and I'm embarrased to say I can't think of any. Perhaps Richard Hawley.

The record you could argue was the first 'Britpop' song was Paul Weller Into Tomorrow.....

 

[Les Tameside]

To me they are better than the Beatles..thats to me.

Im not sure what metric you are using to say they are the second best band to the Beatles

It seems almost purely subjective.

That's the trouble with most "best band "
"Best song " type lists.
it's fantasy land.

Especially funny when you see how ugly and unstlyish and unoriginal lots of the music writers are who make up these lists

It's actually quite scary when you see how many people fall for it.

It's nearly always men who say this league table stuff probably stems from a kind of male autism
Men seem to have this insecurity that they fend off with lists.


To me M is better than Bowie and Lennon and Dylan

But there is no way in hell morrissey even comes in the top five with the worlds important male pop stars list.


The smiths as far as the world is concerned probably don't get in the top 5 either.

In fact even in the uk they prob don't.


Beatels
R Stones
The who
The Kinks
The Jam
Joy Division
The Fall
sex pistols
Specials
Stone Roses
led Zeplin
The Police
D mode
The Cure
Oasis
Suede
Pulp
even Blur could, arguably all rate higher than smiths ,

Again im not talking about me, im talking objectively

Pulp bigger than Pink Floyd?

 

[The Wild Turkey]

 

[Janice]

To me they are better than the Beatles..thats to me.

Im not sure what metric you are using to say they are the second best band to the Beatles

It seems almost purely subjective.

That's the trouble with most "best band "
"Best song " type lists.
it's fantasy land.

Especially funny when you see how ugly and unstlyish and unoriginal lots of the music writers are who make up these lists

It's actually quite scary when you see how many people fall for it.

It's nearly always men who say this league table stuff probably stems from a kind of male autism
Men seem to have this insecurity that they fend off with lists.


To me M is better than Bowie and Lennon and Dylan

But there is no way in hell morrissey even comes in the top five with the worlds important male pop stars list.


The smiths as far as the world is concerned probably don't get in the top 5 either.

In fact even in the uk they prob don't.


Beatels
R Stones
The who
The Kinks
The Jam
Joy Division
The Fall
sex pistols
Specials
Stone Roses
led Zeplin
The Police
D mode
The Cure
Oasis
Suede
Pulp
even Blur could, arguably all rate higher than smiths ,

Again im not talking about me, im talking objectively

Not including Pink Floyd is shocking.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

The idea that The Smiths supposedly aren’t that influential or ‘important’ is laughable and preposterous. The number of bands influenced by them, from Blur, Suede and Oasis, to The Libertines, Arctic Monkeys and The Pains of Being Pure at Heart, right up to present day indie pop purveyors Hater, No Suits in Miami and Bastille to name a few.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

Slowdive?

They just don’t do it for me, not hitting on anything new. Unlike MBV which shouldn’t even be in the shoe gaze category, they really go beyond that, everyone else just imitators.