"I Am Not A Dog On A Chain" - pre-order, format details and exclusives summary; new bundles site

JoeSellMozza · Feb 5, 2020

So goodbye! There are some other artists around.

BookishBoy · Feb 5, 2020

konstantinl said:
Morrissey doesn't care any more. He's not cared for a long time. In fact I think it's fair to say he's undergone some kind of mental breakdown.

I was a massive Smiths fan, my friends and I idolised Morrissey, we followed Morrissey around on his 1995 tour and saw some great gigs. There were a few other 'devotees' doing the same and I was surprised to discover that most of them were really nasty people. Like, real nasty. That was kind of the first crack in the facade.

'Vauxhall and I' was, in retrospect, his last great album. I hung on in there until 'Ring Leader of the Tormented' which had one decent song on it. At that point I lost interest. He had become a joke and it wasn't even the sub par music. His books were laughable, his politics stunk, his proclamations were full of paranoia and stupidity.

Since then the downward spiral has been unabated. Morrissey has become an absolute car wreck. I want to look away but I can't. In fact as fascinated and obsessed as I was when Morrissey was great and I am now equally fascinated and obsessed by how terrible he is today.

Sure people change but it's extraordinary that the Morrissey of then has become the Morrissey of now. He's become everything he used to be against. An aged, irrelevant rock star clinging on to some kind of diminishing status with a series of ever worsening releases. It's gone far beyond a tale of tragic depreciation. It's become a comedy. I mean Morrissey really has become utterly risible.

Today I was on Amazon and I saw THIS album cover, literally maybe the worst album cover of all time combined with terrible typography, on a recommended list and I drawn back here to read the discussion. There are some atrocious album covers out there that were poorly conceptualised or produced but this latest Morrissey release has had ZERO effort put into it. It speaks volumes. When you link this up with the cover for 'Swords', 'Low In High School' or 'California Son' you really are looking at someone who is utterly artistically exhausted and doesn't give a damn any more.

I then went to YouTube and listened to the new material and predictably it's tuneless nonsense. One sounded like a third rate Pet Shop Boys rip off band B side. The other was a rather desperate attempt at modernity which fails both through a lack of authenticity and a lack of any song writing talent whatsoever. It sounds like a field recording of a coffee machine put through Cubase on the Atari ST. It's cheap sounding. More shoddy product with no time or care put into it.

Of course every comment praised them to the hilt. Like I said, I wish I could move on but I can't. It's all too ludicrous.

I like how you write, but please, if you can, do yourself a favour - if you genuinely believe someone is "utterly risible" then you seriously need to move on. It's very, very unhealthy to care so much about the late, fading career of an artist that you now think is irredeemably atrocious. Listen to the Smiths, listen to the early solo stuff that you like, but just ignore everything else - if you can? x

konstantinl · Feb 5, 2020

BookishBoy said:
I like how you write, but please, if you can, do yourself a favour - if you genuinely believe someone is "utterly risible" then you seriously need to move on. It's very, very unhealthy to care so much about the late, fading career of an artist that you now think is irredeemably atrocious. Listen to the Smiths, listen to the early solo stuff that you like, but just ignore everything else - if you can? x

First of all thanks for the compliment!

I am still sort of a Morrissey fan, albeit with a cut off point.

I will disappear again after today but I actually feel strongly about what has happened to Morrissey, the way he is destroying his own legacy and I'm just putting my opinion out there.

That's all it is, my opinion. If other people get pleasure out of following the modern iteration of Morrissey that's down to them but honestly I don't understand why. Like I said it's gone from disappointing, gone through plain bad and come out as ludicrously comic.

Later man.

Anonymous · Feb 11, 2020

Michael Caine/Maurice Joseph Micklewhite Jr.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/32403829...435ee6b1700ad3159d21e4affe2f10c&ul_noapp=true

BookishBoy · Feb 11, 2020

Anonymous said:
Michael Caine/Maurice Joseph Micklewhite Jr.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324038292654?var=513083844354&ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F1%2F710-53481-19255-0%2F1%3Fff3%3D4%26pub%3D5575411890%26toolid%3D10001%26campid%3D5338618191%26customid%3Djkp_EAIaIQobChMItMXkhL_J5wIVh6ztCh2Vdg1CEAkYCSABEgKKAfD_BwE%26mpre%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2F324038292654%3Fvar%3D513083844354%26gclid%3DEAIaIQobChMItMXkhL_J5wIVh6ztCh2Vdg1CEAkYCSABEgKKAfD_BwE%26gclsrc%3Daw.ds%26srcrot%3D710-53481-19255-0%26rvr_id%3D2294891946693%26rvr_ts%3D3435ee6b1700ad3159d21e4affe2f10c&ul_noapp=true

I Am A Dog On A Caine - surely?

Deleted member 29235 · Feb 11, 2020

BookishBoy said:
I Am A Dog On A Caine - surely?

"You were only supposed to blow the bloody paws off."

PuppetParrot · Feb 11, 2020

konstantinl said:
First of all thanks for the compliment!

I am still sort of a Morrissey fan, albeit with a cut off point.

I will disappear again after today but I actually feel strongly about what has happened to Morrissey, the way he is destroying his own legacy and I'm just putting my opinion out there.

That's all it is, my opinion. If other people get pleasure out of following the modern iteration of Morrissey that's down to them but honestly I don't understand why. Like I said it's gone from disappointing, gone through plain bad and come out as ludicrously comic.

Later man.

Later, Skinnygator.

PuppetParrot · Feb 11, 2020

konstantinl said:
Morrissey doesn't care any more. He's not cared for a long time. In fact I think it's fair to say he's undergone some kind of mental breakdown.

I was a massive Smiths fan, my friends and I idolised Morrissey, we followed Morrissey around on his 1995 tour and saw some great gigs. There were a few other 'devotees' doing the same and I was surprised to discover that most of them were really nasty people. Like, real nasty. That was kind of the first crack in the facade.

'Vauxhall and I' was, in retrospect, his last great album. I hung on in there until 'Ring Leader of the Tormented' which had one decent song on it. At that point I lost interest. He had become a joke and it wasn't even the sub par music. His books were laughable, his politics stunk, his proclamations were full of paranoia and stupidity.

Since then the downward spiral has been unabated. Morrissey has become an absolute car wreck. I want to look away but I can't. In fact as fascinated and obsessed as I was when Morrissey was great and I am now equally fascinated and obsessed by how terrible he is today.

Sure people change but it's extraordinary that the Morrissey of then has become the Morrissey of now. He's become everything he used to be against. An aged, irrelevant rock star clinging on to some kind of diminishing status with a series of ever worsening releases. It's gone far beyond a tale of tragic depreciation. It's become a comedy. I mean Morrissey really has become utterly risible.

Today I was on Amazon and I saw THIS album cover, literally maybe the worst album cover of all time combined with terrible typography, on a recommended list and I drawn back here to read the discussion. There are some atrocious album covers out there that were poorly conceptualised or produced but this latest Morrissey release has had ZERO effort put into it. It speaks volumes. When you link this up with the cover for 'Swords', 'Low In High School' or 'California Son' you really are looking at someone who is utterly artistically exhausted and doesn't give a damn any more.

I then went to YouTube and listened to the new material and predictably it's tuneless nonsense. One sounded like a third rate Pet Shop Boys rip off band B side. The other was a rather desperate attempt at modernity which fails both through a lack of authenticity and a lack of any song writing talent whatsoever. It sounds like a field recording of a coffee machine put through Cubase on the Atari ST. It's cheap sounding. More shoddy product with no time or care put into it.

Of course every comment praised them to the hilt. Like I said, I wish I could move on but I can't. It's all too ludicrous.

Skinny you know you will buy in several formats, with your dole money

Moz Fan · Mar 16, 2020

Does the vinyl copy come with a digital download?

marred · Mar 16, 2020

Moz Fan said:
Does the vinyl copy come with a digital download?

Yes it does.

GodEmperorMorrissey · Mar 17, 2020

marred said:
Yes it does.

You referring to purchase from Amazon?

marred · Mar 17, 2020

GodEmperorMorrissey said:
You referring to purchase from Amazon?

All vinyl purchases come with a digital download now. Not one record I've bought in the last ten years has not had one.

I ordered the red vinyl from Rough Trade.

pewtavert · Mar 18, 2020

Recorded in 2018 and released in 2020? Why such a delay?

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