Any Morrissey Trump fans here?

[marred]

I realise people here would be afraid to admit it but I thought I'd ask anyway? I am one of them. By "One of them" I mean a Trump fan, not a person who's afraid to admit it.

 

[marred]

Surely that's not TDS. That's just clever criticism of a group she doesn't like. This picture reinforces my intuition that Morrissey probably hasn't changed his mind on Trump. If Morrissey saw this photo, I think he would be disgusted by the McDonald's as well as everyone in it.

Clever? What exactly is clever about it?

 

[bhops]

Do you have a source for this? Jesse ran in 1984, when Sinatra was supporting Reagan. Did he run again in 1988?

Apologies for the confusion. I meant Trump donated to Jesse Jackson when he ran. Not Sinatra.

 

[marred]

No lack of facts. She is a decorated trans woman. Apparently a four-star officer! And I’m sure she’s competent, despite supposed mistakes made during the unprecedented pandemic. But that’s not the point.

And you and your highly emotional rage explosions make your ‘opponents’ here even more keen on triggering you. So keep it up.

I can see why you're so proud of his achievement.

 

[Roman Holiday]

Clever? What exactly is clever about it?

It’s a movie title repurposed for the photo. I suppose clever is in the eye of the beholder, but I think “derangement” has to mean something more than just an innocent four-word internet comment with no caps or exclamation points.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I can see why you're so proud of his achievement.

Do you people do nothing but watch alt-right propaganda videos on YouTube?

 

[nicky wire's legs]

I just want to report that I love trump even MORE today than I did yesterday!

 

[nicky wire's legs]

(I wish i could say the same for the new cure album)

 

[Gregor Samsa]

(I wish i could say the same for the new cure album)

Maybe the former informs the latter? Yeah, I think that’s it. There’s a certain sensitivity that is required to really appreciate that sort of music, and if it’s one thing Trumpists lack (besides…ahem…the obvious) it’s sensitivity. So don’t feel bad. You can’t help it.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

Maybe the former informs the latter? Yeah, I think that’s it. There’s a certain sensitivity that is required to really appreciate that sort of music, and if it’s one thing Trumpists lack (besides…ahem…the obvious) it’s sensitivity. So don’t feel bad. You can’t help it.

Yeah, maybe!

 

[nicky wire's legs]

Sensitivity is so yesterday! The world is healing from all that rubbish, becoming unburdened by what has been! You'll never survive in trumps America with that attitude!

 

[gashonthenail]

I always remember hearing Noam Chomsky, I think back in the 90s, talking about how the establishment likes to convey the message - Running the country is complicated. These political matters aren't really for 'ordinary people' to be concerned about. Leave it to the wise professionals who are trained to do these things. Go back to your live sports broadcast and don't worry your little plebeian head about these serious matters of state.
Isn't it funny how the establishment has changed over the decades? But the message is the same.

 

[thejusticecode]

You need a biology class or two, there is no such thing as a trans women, they are men. So, to which man are you referring? The one who forced nursing homes to take patients who were positive for Covid resulting in more deaths among the elderly, or the man who was stealing women's luggage from airports and wearing their clothes? I feel so bad for the woke, I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy. Also, your constant hyperbole and lack of facts make your posts even more ridiculous.

If you were born with a penis, you're a man.

 

[Redacted]

If you were born with a penis, you're a man.

Yes, some people don't seem to understand that tho

 

[thejusticecode]

Yes, some people don't seem to understand that tho

Total insanity. Listen, I was a hardcore liberal and my teens and 20s. Even ran for local office when I was 25. Democrats back then wouldn't have given that a second thought. Now you'll lose your job if you say a man can't be a woman. It's a fetish, pure and simple.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Total insanity. Listen, I was a hardcore liberal and my teens and 20s. Even ran for local office when I was 25. Democrats back then wouldn't have given that a second thought. Now you'll lose your job if you say a man can't be a woman. It's a fetish, pure and simple.

Well, to be fair, times, and ideas, change. Homosexuality used to be a criminal offense and considered a mental illness. Indigenous people were considered savages. The earth was thought to be flat. I have no problem accepting that if you medically alter your sex from, say penis to vagina, on the grounds of clinically established gender dysphoria, you should be considered a woman henceforth. It shouldn’t be done willy-nilly, and never on underage children, however. Obviously…

 

[gashonthenail]

I have no problem accepting that if you medically alter your sex from, say penis to vagina, on the grounds of clinically established gender dysphoria, you should be considered a woman henceforth. It shouldn’t be done willy-nilly, and never on underage children, however. Obviously…

How do you know what 'gender affirming treatment' Levine has had? He 'transitioned' in his 50s. That can mean anything. It can simply mean a man saying, ok, I am a woman now, you need to treat me as a woman. And Levine has tried to lower age restrictions on medication and surgery. He is dangerous.

Unsealed Court Documents Show That Admiral Rachel Levine Pressured WPATH To Remove Age Guidelines From The Latest Standards Of Care

A head-on collision between science and politics

jessesingal.substack.com

 

[Gregor Samsa]

How do you know what 'gender affirming treatment' Levine has had? He 'transitioned' in his 50s. That can mean anything. It can simply mean a man saying, ok, I am a woman now, you need to treat me as a woman. And Levine has tried to lower age restrictions on medication and surgery. He is dangerous.

Unsealed Court Documents Show That Admiral Rachel Levine Pressured WPATH To Remove Age Guidelines From The Latest Standards Of Care

A head-on collision between science and politics

jessesingal.substack.com

Well, if he was in his fifties he’d had plenty of time to think it over. It was probably a very important decision for him and a huge step. He was a fully grown man and fully grown men in their fifties can do whatever they want. And I don’t necessarily agree with him on lowering or removing age restrictions on these treatments. I understand that youths with gender dysmorphia risk debilitating depression, but I still feel that treating said depression is better than jumping into gender reassignment surgery prematurely.

 

[gashonthenail]

Well, if he was in his fifties he’d had plenty of time to think it over. It was probably a very important decision for him and a huge step. He was a fully grown man and fully grown men in their fifties can do whatever they want.

He can indeed. But no one else should be obligated to recognise him as a woman.

And I don’t necessarily agree with him on lowering or removing age restrictions on these treatments. I understand that youths with gender dysmorphia risk debilitating depression, but I still feel that treating said depression is better than jumping into gender reassignment surgery prematurely.

We can agree on that. But don't you think, Gregor, given that you identify as being on 'the left', the fact that you don't agree with such a policy might just explain why so many ordinary people rejected a politician (Kamala Harris) who clearly does support this policy?

 

[Gregor Samsa]

He can indeed. But no one else should be obligated to recognise him as a woman.

Obligated? No.

We can agree on that. But don't you think, Gregor, given that you identify as being on 'the left',

I do? I thought I was a ‘vanilla centrist’?

the fact that you don't agree with such a policy might just explain why so many ordinary people rejected a politician (Kamala Harris) who clearly does support this policy?

Of course. But does she explicitly support this policy?

 

[gashonthenail]

Obligated? No.

I thought you support hate speech laws? Hate speech laws have been used to prosecute people who 'misgender' the likes of Levine.

I do? I thought I was a ‘vanilla centrist’?

You will have to take that up with Lucifer Sam.

Of course. But does she explicitly support this policy?

Well, Levine is part of the Biden / Harris administration. And Harris said on several occasions there was nothing done over the past 4 years that she disagreed with, or would do differently. So, yes, she does support Levine's extreme trans policies.