Any Morrissey Trump fans here?

[marred]

I realise people here would be afraid to admit it but I thought I'd ask anyway? I am one of them. By "One of them" I mean a Trump fan, not a person who's afraid to admit it.

 

[marred]

No lack of facts. She is a decorated trans woman. Apparently a four-star officer! And I’m sure she’s competent, despite supposed mistakes made during the unprecedented pandemic. But that’s not the point.

And you and your highly emotional rage explosions make your ‘opponents’ here even more keen on triggering you. So keep it up.

He's decorated alright. He's a man decorated as a woman, but the decoration is only skin deep.

 

[bhops]

The angst and fear you must feel for having a highly decorated and competent trans woman in a high position is something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. You must be so scared.

Yeah I'm literally shaking in the corner out of fear. Shaking I tell you.

 

[Mosserray]

 

[marred]

The TDS is glorious!

 

[Roman Holiday]

The TDS is glorious!

Surely that's not TDS. That's just clever criticism of a group she doesn't like. This picture reinforces my intuition that Morrissey probably hasn't changed his mind on Trump. If Morrissey saw this photo, I think he would be disgusted by the McDonald's as well as everyone in it.

 

[Redacted]

Wow, Rand Paul was bloody brilliant there. And Levine responds like some woke Stepford wife / husband.
People who defend the mutilation of children in the name of this ideology really do need to re-evaluate their values. Now we know why Gregor is so down on the 1st amendment and wants to restrict freedom of speech - it really is your only option when you want to push trans ideology.

I do like Rand Paul and I agree he did very well there, just short and to the point which gave Richard every opportunity to provide an actual answer. You would think as a pediatrician Richard would want to protect children, but as you can see, the trans ideology is much more important than any concern for the child and/or the government forcing this ideology against the wishes of parents.
Anyone opposed to free speech is a coward, they are weak and want their government to decide what they can and can't hear via silencing people, and then want the government to punish people for saying things they don't want to hear.

 

[Redacted]

Yeah I'm literally shaking in the corner out of fear. Shaking I tell you.

Do you need a safe space and some cocoa?

 

[Redacted]

Maybe she's forgotten what kind of man her father was, who also said this about Sinead O'Connor “This must be one stupid broad. I’d kick her ass if she were a guy. She must beat her kids to stay in shape" after she ripped up a picture of the pope on SNL in protest of child abuse and child sexual abuse by the Catholic Church.

 

[bhops]

Do you need a safe space and some cocoa?

Only if you use soy milk.

 

[Andy W]

Maybe she's forgotten what kind of man her father was, who also said this about Sinead O'Connor “This must be one stupid broad. I’d kick her ass if she were a guy. She must beat her kids to stay in shape" after she ripped up a picture of the pope on SNL in protest of child abuse and child sexual abuse by the Catholic Church.

Sinatra was old school Catholic and he didn’t mince words. He was also a Kennedy and civil rights supporter.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Yeah I'm literally shaking in the corner out of fear. Shaking I tell you.

I know. It’s very clear.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Maybe she's forgotten what kind of man her father was, who also said this about Sinead O'Connor “This must be one stupid broad. I’d kick her ass if she were a guy. She must beat her kids to stay in shape" after she ripped up a picture of the pope on SNL in protest of child abuse and child sexual abuse by the Catholic Church.

According to Esquire (in an edition published in 1991, when this had just happened) and American Songwriter, he said it as a response to Sinead refusing to have the national anthem played before her show in NJ (American Songwriter even cite a book). Rolling Stone claims it was in reference to the pope business, but gives no source.

To summarize: it’s unclear when he said it or if he said it all. So go easy on the alternative facts.

Sinéad O'Connor, Uncensored | Esquire | January 1991

After a childhood spent dodging blows, how can she be silenced by the likes of Frank Sinatra?

classic.esquire.com

https://americansongwriter.com/sinead-oconnors-rebellious-clash-with-frank-sinatra/

 

[Gregor Samsa]

It’s also very unclear if Sinatra even was religious. Wikipedia claims he was later in his life, but their source is a dead webpage. He was, in fact, very patriotic.

 

[Redacted]

Frank Sinatra was known for his violent temper, he didn't just talk about hitting women, he actually did it. I won't address any defenses of him. Just because he is Nancy's father, which makes him Morrissey adjacent, doesn't excuse it.

 

[gashonthenail]

He was also a Kennedy and civil rights supporter.

As was Trump. Trump is basically an old school democrat. That's why Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr felt able to join his common sense coalition. But it's an indication of just how deranged the legacy media have become that he is labelled as being 'far right'. He has spoken very highly of Kennedy and promised to release the files about his assassination.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Frank Sinatra was known for his violent temper, he didn't just talk about hitting women, he actually did it. I won't address any defenses of him. Just because he is Nancy's father, which makes him Morrissey adjacent, doesn't excuse it.

I don’t give a flying f*** about that. That has nothing to do with anything I said. I just wanted to clarify that there are certain question marks surrounding what you said. And if you have anything at all that corroborates your claim that he physically abused women, feel free to post it here. I myself struggle to find anything.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Sinatra was old school Catholic and he didn’t mince words. He was also a Kennedy and civil rights supporter.

All true. But he also switched to the Republican Party in the early seventies. He supported Nixon and, later on, Reagan.

 

[bhops]

All true. But he also switched to the Republican Party in the early seventies. He supported Nixon and, later on, Reagan.

He also gave money to Jesse Jackson when he ran for President in the 80s

 

[Gregor Samsa]

He also gave money to Jesse Jackson when he ran for President in the 80s

Do you have a source for this? Jesse ran in 1984, when Sinatra was supporting Reagan. Did he run again in 1988?

 

[Redacted]

As was Trump. Trump is basically an old school democrat. That's why Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr felt able to join his common sense coalition. But it's an indication of just how deranged the legacy media have become that he is labelled as being 'far right'. He has spoken very highly of Kennedy and promised to release the files about his assassination.

Yes, he actually is an old school Democrat. Funny, my husband said that about him recently as well. Trump used to be a Democrat. I used to be a Democrat. I was raised by a Boston Catholic family who were huge Kennedy supporters and all Democrat. Things have really changed.
I think what a lot of people don't get about him is that he is a certain kind of man of a certain age from a certain place - he is from Queens, people from the New York boroughs are just a certain way, the older ones. Even the women are different, people in those boroughs (Queens, Bronx, Manhattan, Brooklyn, Staten Island) have very unique personalities. I had a boss from the Bronx, he was a lot older than me, most fun joh I ever had - he was brash and hilarious and very politically incorrect. Never laughed so much at work in my life.