TTY: Gail Shea in search of a new hobby

a) "Since Gail Shea thinks it is morally correct of Canada to dispense with unwanted beings by slicing their heads open with an axe, hopefully this same fate will happen to Shea"

So I guess wishing death on humans is OK then, but animals most certainly not.

b) "...although given her 78% pork girth it could take nine wielding axemen and at least six daylight hours to finish her off."

Wait. What? Morrissey is taking the piss out of someone for being fat? Jesus f***ing Christ. Shameful. Absolutely shameful. Seriously Morrissey, f*** off, and lay off the vodka.

f***s sake.
 
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Isn't Late Night, Maudlin Street about body image issues?
 
Anonymous said:
You really are unbelievable. Where was your criticism of Morrissey when he called for the head of Elton John? Nowhere, and why not? Because it was funny. Do you remember humour? Where was your criticism of You're the one for me, Fatty? Nowhere, because it was humorous. Many of Morrissey's lyrics are humorous but you have lost all sight of everything positive to do with Morrissey. As others have stated, you are now just a bitter and twisted middle aged Smiths fan. Morrissey's comment about Gutty Gail is a throw-away humorous one liner, nothing more, nothing less. You use the name Uncle 'skinny' which would suggest that you yourself see skinny as a positive rather than a negative. I bet if you were to suddenly balloon in size, you wouldn't call yourself Uncle Fat c***.
What is more, how do any of us know if Stephen Hawking is the real slim shady or not?
Now do everyone a favour and f*** off back to your ivory tower.
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where was skinny when fatty came out? that was 30 years ago there was no internet yet.
morrissey lyrics are funnier than moldy asparagus that for sure.
 
Anonymous said:
You really are unbelievable. Where was your criticism of Morrissey when he called for the head of Elton John? Nowhere, and why not? Because it was funny. Do you remember humour? Where was your criticism of You're the one for me, Fatty? Nowhere, because it was humorous. Many of Morrissey's lyrics are humorous but you have lost all sight of everything positive to do with Morrissey. As others have stated, you are now just a bitter and twisted middle aged Smiths fan. Morrissey's comment about Gutty Gail is a throw-away humorous one liner, nothing more, nothing less. You use the name Uncle 'skinny' which would suggest that you yourself see skinny as a positive rather than a negative. I bet if you were to suddenly balloon in size, you wouldn't call yourself Uncle Fat c***.
What is more, how do any of us know if Stephen Hawking is the real slim shady or not?
Now do everyone a favour and f*** off back to your ivory tower.
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My work here is done. Tremendous stuff.
 
Anonymous said:
He doesn't hate women, he just finds them physically disgusting, ridiculous creatures. Like fatties.
Read 'List of the Lost' and 'Autobiograpy' again - both books are positively dripping with misogyny.
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On the contrary, in his autobiography he expresses great love for his grandmother and his mother. He even likes the wife of Marr and many other women he talks about.
 
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I'm so sick of hyper-defensive fatsos! If you're fat, you're fat. Don't cry about the fact that people say you're fat. Don't say you're living in a "skinny world" when it's fat. If you have lipedema, then it's not your fault, and yet the word "fat" should not offend you. Don't put "fat" under a general category of "weight" to try to deflect the fact that you're fat.

Bravo Morrissey. Well said! Keep telling off Gail Shea. Is she fat or what?

Listen to Mistro. He's telling it like it is. Just like you and me.

ninetimesfined said:
Great statement until the fat hating bit. Why belittle it by putting that?

I understand and feel empathy to the seals but low blow, man. Low blow
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Am I the only person here who wholeheartedly had a good laugh at his post? I found his jokes clever and funny. It always has a "hint" of sarcasm, just the way I like it. I must say though, that people get offended at my jokes as well. People just lost their sense of humour somewhere in the political-correctness fog. I will drink a double vodka and tonic to us Moz, 'cause nobody gets our jokes.
 
The fact that Morrissey idolises his mother doesn't mean he doesn't have huge issues with women in general, any more than the fact he is friends with Boz doesn't mean he doesn't have fat/body shaming issues.
Both of these issues come up repeatedly in his work, writing, interviews, and seem quite clear to most people.

To try and ignore the general trend because of a few exceptions seems wilfully ignorant.
 
I will be forwarding Morrissey comments to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

His comments are threatening in nature and given that Ms. Shea is a Minister in the government they will be taken extremely seriously.
 
Uncleskinny said:
Is it OK to take the piss out of someone for their body size? Yes or no? One of the two words is an answer. Go ahead.
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Surely you're aware there are MANY people who think it's okay to criticize a person's body. Look at the grief Crystal Geezer has gotten at times on this very site for her body size. I don't recall you ever stepping in and condemning it.

There are more than a few instances that Morrissey has made it clear fat chicks are 'lesser than' in his mind. I think that's a deficit of his, with more than a misogynistic whiff to it. Truth be told, if someone here posted the exact same sentiment, you wouldn't say or do anything about it, because, you know....free speech and all. It's not exactly hard to see how folks may view you as a constantly moaning hypocrite, now is it?
 
DavidK said:
The first time I met Morrissey I was not at all disappointed. He was exactly the man I had expected him to be: charming, soft-spoken, and incredibly reserved (all of which I consider virtues). I was grateful, and still am, for having that opportunity. For me, he is the greatest lyricist of his generation, and whether or not he is unpleasant to fans is of little consequence, but from my experience that could not be farther from the truth.

Morrissey as a public crusader is another story entirely. It is as if all the cruel and bizarre things we have read about him in the past are suddenly becoming true. I often wonder if he has a PR agent, and if he does, do they also represent the Church of Scientology? We can surely all agree that his commitment to animal welfare is admirable. Perhaps that is an understatement. But his method of delivery is deplorable.

Publically shaming someone by calling them fat and wishing them dead is not stoic, it is petty and cruel. Publically admitting that you take pleasure in women being gored by bulls does not speak of an empathetic person, it speaks of an Ill one. Wishing painful death upon someone because they don't share the same values about their food choices is the definition of barbaric!

In Morrissey's world he can tell his employees what they can eat, what clothes they can wear, and in Julia's case, what they can post. If you disobey him be shunned, or even worse, have your name printed on a T-shirt underneath an expletive. Truly anger him and he will wish you dead on TTY.

True campaigners for justice don't release passive aggressive statements on blogs. They don't belittle someone about their weight on the internet, which is tantamount to bullying. Teenage girls do this. Morrissey is a grown man.

Morrissey chooses his battles carefully. Taking pot shots at an elderly woman with weight issues isn't a courageous one. Surely I am not the only one who sees this?
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Oh, get a life. I thought it was funny. I love the sarcasm in his humor. I also loved the comment of Elton John's head on a plate not being a murder. Fabulous!
 
Anonymous said:
He doesn't hate women, he just finds them physically disgusting, ridiculous creatures. Like fatties.
Read 'List of the Lost' and 'Autobiograpy' again - both books are positively dripping with misogyny.
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This all must be humiliating for Julia who invested her LIFE following the "prophet" who is disgusted by her presence. Didn't she call him that once? Anyway I feel bad for her.
 
countthree said:
On the contrary, in his autobiography he expresses great love for his grandmother and his mother. He even likes the wife of Marr and many other women he talks about.
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morrissey only loves his mother because she let him suck on her tits till he was 15.
 
Ambra said:
I don't know much about politics in Canada and i see you live there so you know things much better than me. I don't want to go into political details i know nothing about, my post was simply a reflection on what caused the reply Moz decided to give her. What i wanted to say is that i don't think his comment is so shocking, because:
1)It's not the first time he acts like that, to me that reply is in perfect Moz style. If you get offended then you don't know him.
2)People who complain about Morrissey's comment are quite hypocrital to me. When we argue with someone we all say nasty things, it's normal. I'm not saying it's ok to make fun of other people's weight but when we don't like someone we are more likely to make such comments.
3)Maybe he doesn't know everything about Canada and its politics etc., but his intentions were good. When it comes to saving animals we know Morrissey is honest, he tries to do his best to help them, so why saying he's a millionaire searching for a hobby? This is WHY he answered in that way, because that woman showed no respect to him. Morrissey doesn't know her and her party super well but with that reply she made me understand she knows nothing about him and she doesn't give a damn if innocent animals are dying.
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I said above that this is typical of him lately. Yes, the queen is dead, when will you die (Thatcher) -- he's always been this way fundamentally speaking. But even since last year's comments to Shea, he has continued to devolve.

His comment of a year and a half ago was coherent and well thought out for the most part, with its major flaw being a reference to the Holocaust.

This latest little giddy pronouncement was just so tactless. If we go from Queen Elizabeth to Margaret Thatcher to... Gail Shea... Christ. That alone is a devolution. Morrissey's comments here lack any of his previous wit. He now seems to just write the first thought that comes to mind, not really giving a shit about how he presents what he's saying, not worrying about the fact that the way he communicates is closed to persuasion. His novel is the essential document of his current style. It's too lazy, too hyperbolic, too abrasive.

I don't care if his intetions were good if he was talking out of his ass when he can easily use Google to brush up on things he is unaware of. For example, does he propose that the Canadian government round up all First Nations peoples and put them into concentration camps? I would like to hear his practical ideas rather than his personal criticisms of a minister that does not matter any more as far as he should be concerned. God forbid he manage to take the high road. He's certainly entitled to make a statement and express his delight with the fact that Shea, an opponent to his cause, is out of the way, but beyond that what's his action plan? Is he planning to cull Gail Shea, totally ignore his beef with Canada now that his tormentor Gail Shea is out of office, or is he going to try to make a real difference and take a practical approach to what he believes to be an important issue?

The main thing I would say to Morrissey is: Gail Shea is gone. So what? What about the seals? What do you want to do next? How do you plan to engage with the new government and new minister? Is a boycott beneficial, or would spending time in Canada, doing shows, meeting with officials, doing public appearances, be more beneficial?
 
tyronepowebottom said:
only because you are a woman you know he doesn't hate women? I'm a woman too and after reading LOTL and his autobiography is pretty clear he has some issues with women
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he has issues. I have issues. You have issues. S O ... W H A T !

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Anonymous said:
Iam the one who wrote the "morrissey hates women comment" and i could not agree with you more. Even before list of the lost and the autobiography, i always sensed he had a confusion/ignorance of women that slowly but gradually turned into hatred. I think he sees them as mentally inferior, grabby, childlike creatures. Some experiance/ relationstips with women must have really screwed him up and you know moz, he is a stubborn person who never forgets anything, or has the ability to realise that all women are not the same
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YOU KNOW... NOTHING. why do you come here ?
 
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Anonymous said:
why you are always picking on the anons and not your good buddy benny? he says things which are lot worse.
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because...well, you see... Benny can't be helped... But there may be some hope for the stray anon
who stumbles upon this site. MAY BE.
 
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