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[Famous when dead]

Further to the three Visconti FB replies & image highlighted here last Thursday
(See: Post in thread 'Strange/unexpected Moz references?' https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/strange-unexpected-moz-references.83338/post-1987593414),

There's 2 more of interest:

FWD.

 

[Erik]

…is like a dream

It’s time ? Rebirth?

 

[Ryan]

This post from Tony reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons where Homer is contemplating taking his life. He says his heartfelt goodbyes to Marge, Lisa and Maggie, then gets to Bart and says something like: “…uh, I like your sheets.” The best thing he could think to say about him.

His post reads the same. LOL

 

[Erik]

This post from Tony reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons where Homer is contemplating taking his life. He says his heartfelt goodbyes to Marge, Lisa and Maggie, then gets to Bart and says something like: “…uh, I like your sheets.” The best thing he could think to say about him.

His post reads the same. LOL

Dayum!

 

[hand in glove]

…is against me now
The clock on the wall…
Years gone by…

It could mean anything or nothing at all.

 

[Malarkey]

A post of post is a bit odd - but it's a nice post.

 

[Skylarker]

It's good to see an olive branch between them. It's good to see anyone in the industry with any clout -which Visconti oozes- have the balls to support him. Good on Tony.

 

[Cornflakes]

Further to the three Visconti FB replies & image highlighted here last Thursday
(See: Post in thread 'Strange/unexpected Moz references?' https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/strange-unexpected-moz-references.83338/post-1987593414),

There's 2 more of interest:

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FWD.

Someone should let Visconti know that it wasn't anyone to do with the studio that issued that remix. An ingenious fan used Morricone's original strings from an official "making of" video and laid them over the CD version.

 

[bhops]

Someone should let Visconti know that it wasn't anyone to do with the studio that issued that remix. An ingenious fan used Morricone's original strings from an official "making of" video and laid them over the CD version.

Have you got as link? I wouldn't mind listening to it.

 

[Anonymous]

Have you got as link? I wouldn't mind listening to it.

 

[Famous when dead]

'Fan made' version first shared anywhere online via morrissey-solo by "deanadshead" / "deanjamessolo" (October 4, 2008).
MP3 resides in various static links in the Download section.

Thread 'Dear God Please Help Me (Edit with full original string part)' https://www.morrissey-solo.com/thre...me-edit-with-full-original-string-part.91372/
FWD.

 

[Mimi Ramone]

I wouldn't read too much of a meaning into this Central post. He always posts something, when someone mentions him these days and always chooses a cryptic or pathetic title. It's nice, that they didn't fall out with each other and everything was fine during the ROTT days. But I don't think, the above means anything except for "look someone posted something about me".

 

[Johnnie Ray]

Moz and Tony did a good one in Rome.
That Ringleader came bangin' out the gate.

Truly one of his worst songs ever.

 

[Jamie]

Further to the three Visconti FB replies & image highlighted here last Thursday
(See: Post in thread 'Strange/unexpected Moz references?' https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/strange-unexpected-moz-references.83338/post-1987593414),

There's 2 more of interest:

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FWD.

Thanks for sharing - I was always wondering how the strings version of "Dear God Please Help Me" could have been fan-sourced without access to the full session tapes - ergo, The Studio Owner's Father Who Was Not Thrilled, if you will.

Personally, I'm grateful for his renegade act. The remix was a beauty.

 

[Cornflakes]

This is the video the strings were taken from, although I'm not sure this YouTube channel is the original source for it.

 

[Anonymous]

I have to say I'm with Moz and Visconti on this - whilst I might not have stripped it back quite as much as they did, Morricone's arrangement was a bit too busy and ultimately worked against the effectiveness of the song - sometimes less is more.

That said, I would have loved an alternate mix that focuses on the full orchestral arrangement. Something like this really should have been a B-Side or a bonus track at the time.

 

[Cornflakes]

I have to say I'm with Moz and Visconti on this - whilst I might not have stripped it back quite as much as they did, Morricone's arrangement was a bit too busy and ultimately worked against the effectiveness of the song - sometimes less is more.

I think it's arguable. But I also think what the f*** are you doing working with someone who many consider to be among the most important musicians of the 20th century if you're just going to dump his work? Might not be so bad if you don't then go on to use his name as a celebrity collaborator and make everyone think he wrote a nothing string arrangement for you, which is pretty cheeky, really.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

Someone should let Visconti know that it wasn't anyone to do with the studio that issued that remix. An ingenious fan used Morricone's original strings from an official "making of" video and laid them over the CD version.

Hmmm, wonder where Tony got the ‘false’ information that it was the studio owners father that put up a different mix.

 

[ZOOM FROM GLOOM]

Could understand where Visconti is coming from, the frills are a bit much during vocal parts, and overall it drags a bit. Though, nice to hear a different take on it. But maybe there could have been a better balance between what Morricone gave them and what made it on the final album mix.

 

[Multi]

makes the track somewhat listenable -- mostly just out of curiosity though.

ROTT is a very poor album. The production is bland, the mixing is all over the place, the songs do not flow well together and the only track truly worth going back to is Pigsty.

I can't stand to listen to Quarry either due to the production being absolutely atrocious, but at least that one has some solid tracks on it.