Strange/unexpected Moz references?

Not a Morrissey but as a Marr mention.
In the latest "Word in Your Ear" podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...hell-and-how-gay/id1567029088?i=1000658347530), in which the topic and interview is with Jon Savage and his newest book, "The Secret Public: How LGBTQ Performers Shaped Popular Culture 1955-1979". At 6:06 - 06:20, Johnny Marr's name is dropped by the author, saying that in discussions with Marr, who in part, according to the author, was an inspiration for the book, and says that Marr, in the early eighties, was fascinated by gay culture, even though entirely heterosexual, and very much influenced by gay culture.
Also the author hints that Frank Sinatra was gay.
 
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The Seeker of Good Songs said:
Not as Morrissey but as a Marr mention.
In the latest "Word in Your Ear" podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...hell-and-how-gay/id1567029088?i=1000658347530), in which the topic and interview is with Jon Savage and his newest book, "The Secret Public: How LGBTQ Performers Shaped Popular Culture 1955-1979". At 6:06 - 06:20, Johnny Marr's name is dropped by the author, saying that in discussions with Marr, who in part, according to the author, was an inspiration for the book, and says that Marr, in the early eighties, was fascinated by gay culture, even though entirely heterosexual, and very much influenced by gay culture.
Also the author hints that Frank Sinatra was gay.
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Didn’t listen, but there’s also a reference to Linder.
 
The Seeker of Good Songs said:
Not a Morrissey but as a Marr mention.
In the latest "Word in Your Ear" podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...hell-and-how-gay/id1567029088?i=1000658347530), in which the topic and interview is with Jon Savage and his newest book, "The Secret Public: How LGBTQ Performers Shaped Popular Culture 1955-1979". At 6:06 - 06:20, Johnny Marr's name is dropped by the author, saying that in discussions with Marr, who in part, according to the author, was an inspiration for the book, and says that Marr, in the early eighties, was fascinated by gay culture, even though entirely heterosexual, and very much influenced by gay culture.
Also the author hints that Frank Sinatra was gay.
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Sounds like a very interesting book by Jon Savage. So he outs his friend Johnny Marr as "entirely heterosexual" - sorry Marrissey fans!
 
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Believed to be Copenhagen.
Via Damiano Abele IG story.
 
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Paul Baker via a FB group:

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Interesting. Not sure about selling, but there's been lots of interest from auction houses! I personally don't understand why someone would want to sell something like this after having it for 40 years already. Is it another case of 'I don't like who Morrissey is now' ?
 
The Alchemist said:
Interesting. Not sure about selling, but there's been lots of interest from auction houses! I personally don't understand why someone would want to sell something like this after having it for 40 years already. Is it another case of 'I don't like who Morrissey is now' ?
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‘I can prove provenance from the set list , backstage photos, poster of event etc but keen to hear thoughts of genuine fans . Not sure about selling this as I have just discovered I had it (Thought it had been lost) but if the
interest is there with a sensible offer May be tempted.’

After all those years, and thinking it was lost, I speculate that he feels he could live without it. The pocket change may change his mind, but the memories will remain. And that may be enough.
 
ZOOM FROM GLOOM said:
‘I can prove provenance from the set list , backstage photos, poster of event etc but keen to hear thoughts of genuine fans . Not sure about selling this as I have just discovered I had it (Thought it had been lost) but if the
interest is there with a sensible offer May be tempted.’

After all those years, and thinking it was lost, I speculate that he feels he could live without it. The pocket change may change his mind, but the memories will remain. And that may be enough.
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Maybe! Not what I would do, but each to their own :)
 
The Seeker of Good Songs said:
Not a Morrissey but as a Marr mention.
In the latest "Word in Your Ear" podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...hell-and-how-gay/id1567029088?i=1000658347530), in which the topic and interview is with Jon Savage and his newest book, "The Secret Public: How LGBTQ Performers Shaped Popular Culture 1955-1979". At 6:06 - 06:20, Johnny Marr's name is dropped by the author, saying that in discussions with Marr, who in part, according to the author, was an inspiration for the book, and says that Marr, in the early eighties, was fascinated by gay culture, even though entirely heterosexual, and very much influenced by gay culture.
Also the author hints that Frank Sinatra was gay.
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Again I find the lack of a Morrissey mention exceedingly strange, when Morrissey's choices of artwork and lyrics are surely what would have signaled gender references, much more than the music.
 
goinghome said:
Again I find the lack of a Morrissey mention exceedingly strange, when Morrissey's choices of artwork and lyrics are surely what would have signaled gender references, much more than the music.
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The book ends with disco in 1979, unfortunately the Smiths don't enter in to it. Johnny is a friend of his.

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Johnny Marr and Jon Savage on music, work ethic and politics

Writer Jon Savage and guitarist and singer Johnny Marr discuss their relationship, enduring work ethic and challenges facing young people.
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"The record, called Pollinator, was well received and garnered more attention than the previous efforts. We did some memorable shows during this period. The one at Madison Square Garden with Morrissey two days after the Marriage Equality Act passed was a nice event. At the finale our friends from What Cheer? Brigade, a great manic marching band from Rhode Island who had played their horns on the record, joined us for “Tide Is High”; Debbie wrapped herself in a big rainbow flag and everyone went home happy. Our second time at Glastonbury there was a huge crowd and the promoters said it was the biggest for a Friday afternoon. Another vast crowd was at our gig with Phil Collins in Hyde Park, London."

The merest mention in Under a Rock: A Memoir by Blondie's Chris Stein (June, 2024).
FWD.
 
I thought they were doing singles - then we get this... :unsure:

 
The Smiths song Morrissey regarded as “the best days of our career”
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"The best days" of The Smiths, according to Morrissey

The final days of Morrissey and The Smiths were pretty messy, but they also produced some of the band's finest work, including 'Shoplifters of the World Unite'.
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