Morrissey Central "ROD LIDDLE, The Spectator" (March 5, 2025)

Why was there so little fanfare after David Johansen’s death? 3 March 2025, 6:39am

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David Johansen died aged 75 on 28 February, which most people who knew him would consider a miracle. Every other member of the band for which he is most renowned checked out years ago, the earliest being drummer Billy Murcia who died aged 21. His replacement, Jerry Nolan, died at 45 and most people thought that had been a long time coming, frankly. The guitarist, the wonderful Johnny Thunders, died aged 38.

That band was, of course, The New York Dolls. Hits – none. Their two albums made it to about 167 in the Billboard charts. Both were abysmally produced, as was Johnny Thunders’ album with his spin off band, The Heartbreakers. And yet all three albums, if you hear them today, are palpably alive, original, raw, exciting and often hilarious.

More to the point, they had probably as great an influence on rock music as the Velvet Underground. Without the Dolls, no Sex Pistols, perhaps no punk. No Smiths. No glam metal. No glam indie stuff, no Suede. You might blame them for a later epidemic of cross dressing debauchery, for epitomising the idiotic James Dean live fast and die young schtick. But you cannot deny the excitement they provided, nor that wonderful legacy of songs – Lookin For a Kiss, Personality Crisis, Jet Boy, Trash and, my own favourite, Vietnamese Baby.

Johansen was the singer – a fabulous and dangerous parody of Mick Jagger. He was, to me, the very essence of 1970s rock n roll. And I hope that now he is in some kind of heaven, the kind of heaven he would like.

WRITTEN BY

Rod Liddle
Rod Liddle is associate editor of The Spectator.




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FWD.


UPDATE 12:30PM PT:

The title of the Morrissey Central article has changed from:
"ROD LIDDLE, The Spectator"

to:
"Why was there so little fanfare after David Johansen’s death?"
 
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Can't stand Rod Liddle but have to agree with him here. No tributes on the radio stations like 6Music, nada in the media and a deafening silence over one of the most influential bands of the 70s, regardless of their status in the pop music charts.
 
NOBODY CARES, that’s why. They were a shitty band, had no hit singles and were of no importance.

Yes, I get it. Moaning Myrtle likes them. That doesn’t make them superstars or godlike.

Sigh….
Ooooh! I have to respectfully disagree with this one. The Dolls were great! The Heartbreakers were great! David Johansen's late 70's, early 80's solo albums were great! The Dolls had no hits because they were way ahead of their time.
 
Plenty of Fanfare in my neck and demographic of the woods. You would have thought on of the fookin' Beatles died.
 
Most music fans have to be in awe of the New York Factory/CBGBs scene from the Velvet Underground, Iggy, New York Dolls, Ramones, Blondie, Talking Heads, Television, Heartbreakers, just like David Bowie and Morrissey were.
Seattle, Manchester, or even 1960s London really don't compare.
And yep, some of those bands sold cock all and had little "success" and others became global household names, yet they all influenced each other massively and equally.
David Johansen and his Dolls, may not have sold millions, but playing live they were an extraordinary, mesmerising tour de force, but unfortunately "real music fans" don't write the news. Journo hacks today just swallow the corporate bullshit, and think music started with Beyonce and ends with Taylor Swift, their highlight of the musical year being some mainstream pap playing the "legends" slot at Glastonbury.
In a just world the New York Dolls should have been one of the 1st bands to play that legendary Sunday afternoon show.
 
Can't stand Rod Liddle but have to agree with him here. No tributes on the radio stations like 6Music, nada in the media and a deafening silence over one of the most influential bands of the 70s, regardless of their status in the pop music charts.

hmmm...

Radio 6 played Funky But Chic on Saturday morning.

As for media, the Guardian alone managed to write three articles.https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/mar/02/david-johansen-obituary

David Johansen obituary | Punk

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The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › music › mar › david-jo...

david johansen tribute the guardian from www.theguardian.com
4 days ago — David Johansen obituary. Singer, songwriter, actor and punk pioneerbest known as the frontman of New York Dolls.

David Johansen, frontman of New York Dolls, dies aged 75​

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The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › music › mar › david-jo...


david johansen tribute the guardian from www.theguardian.com
4 days ago — David Johansen, the swaggering, peacocking frontman with glam rock band New York Dolls, has died aged 75. Last month he had announced he was ...

Wild, waspish and whip-smart, there are few rock stars as ...​

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The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › music › mar › wild-was...


david johansen tribute the guardian from www.theguardian.com
4 days ago — Frontman David Johansen never appears to stop talking throughout, an endless, wildly entertaining source of tall tales – at one juncture, he ...
 
Love Rod Liddle. No doubt the usual mob will be on here saying how 'right wing' he is. That would, of course, be bollocks. He's working class. With an opinion. But I do realise that is the very definition of 'right wing' these days.
It's not that which bothers me. It's the misogyny.
 
It's not that which bothers me. It's the misogyny.
Grow up. It's just words. Have you ever sat in a pub and heard how people talk? Men and women. Words are just words. Actions are important. But we live in an upside down world. An MP violently punches a member of the public and gets a suspended sentence. Someone posts some hurty words on X and gets sent to prison. This is crazy. But it does highlight this overtly religious attitude to words by adherents of the religion of woke. It's magical thinking. For the woke - words are violence. Words oppress people. And words can also miraculously transform a man into a woman. It is totally bizarre and irrational, and very childlike, to imbue words with such mystical power.
 
When Morrissey broke out this song in the summer of '91, I couldn't identify it immediately and then it was... OMG! He's playing Trash by the New York Dolls! Probably most of the audience didn't get it but those who did went nuts! He totally Morrissey'd up the song, made it his own. Magical.

 
Grow up. It's just words. Have you ever sat in a pub and heard how people talk? Men and women. Words are just words. Actions are important. But we live in an upside down world. An MP violently punches a member of the public and gets a suspended sentence. Someone posts some hurty words on X and gets sent to prison. This is crazy. But it does highlight this overtly religious attitude to words by adherents of the religion of woke. It's magical thinking. For the woke - words are violence. Words oppress people. And words can also miraculously transform a man into a woman. It is totally bizarre and irrational, and very childlike, to imbue words with such mystical power.
“It’s just words”.

Try telling that to Morrissey. Mystical power is exactly what words can have.
 
'Fanfare' is the wrong word, I think. Fanfares are used to herald glorious arrivals not mourn sad departures. Sorry to pick on word choice, but I couldn't help noticing.
 
There are a lot of Mick Jagger imitators. Not everyone can be memorialized nationally and internationally, and by God, I hope it's not a mainstream media conspiracy. The shock of Morrissey's curated Dolls comeback record is enough for me. A monument to monumental insignificance in post-millenium glam. The nice moment of remembering “Looking for a kiss” as a pre-tape at earlier Morrissey gigs is enough. Wild and raw, yes, but not as important as he would have liked them to be.
 
I always thought that picture was with Marc Bolan (I feel really stupid)
Rebels without applause backdrop.
 
Love Rod Liddle. No doubt the usual mob will be on here saying how 'right wing' he is. That would, of course, be bollocks. He's working class. With an opinion. But I do realise that is the very definition of 'right wing' these days.
Love Rod Liddle. No doubt the usual mob will be on here saying how 'right wing' he is. That would, of course, be bollocks. He's working class. With an opinion. But I do realise that is the very definition of 'right wing' these days.
He is a knob right twice a year
He is a knob typical of the more nasty elements of Britain. He writes like a 17 year old . He’s basically Jeremy Clarkson with more edge
But we like who we like
Funny thing is he kinda panned M”s last Lp

He is right wing , he said so himself before
The Spectator is a right wing rag they mainly employ Zionist types .Dougkas Murray was the editor . Not sure if he is now he moved to USA and hangs with Trump

Julie Burchill writes for them and she is a major Zionist and serious anti Muslim hack
She woukd sell any story for money , even her fecking kids death . Karma has got her back . Now she can’t walk . lol
She really is a nasty bit of work the stories in Brighton and Hove about her. She wrote a “ my heartbreak “ story like 3 weeks after he her son died or something ,
I hear she got James Maker a job . Well she talked the editor in to posting his articles., here and there , on the internet version of the rag
He has managed three so far. Three or Four in 5 months. Lol
I heard Julie spoke to someone at The Spectator and asked them to help James after another one of his attention seeking FB posts and emails. I guess that was nice of her
At least I heard this from a few people, I know a few of Makers mates who made it passed his latest cull. Lol. I used to like Burchills NME stuff in the 70s but man she she can be a nasty person . Ask anyone who knows her in Brighton .and London
That’s when I knew AllyM was a dick when I would see him having drinks with her and her Zionist mates. The stuff she says about Muslims is racist as feck.
I say all this because , yes Rod is right wing , that’s why some on here might say it
Not a surprise that M posted something from there .
 
Mmmmm. I see more of the NYD in The Addicts or Sigue Sigue Sputnik.


It’s more than just dressing up though. The influence went much deeper. And yeah, M had many influences, but Johansen’s and the Dolls influence seemed to stand out amongst the others, allowed M to be his weirdest self, empowered him to not give a fuuck. So yes, without the New York Dolls, there would be no Smiths.
 

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