Jesus of Nazareth, known as "J-dogg" by some

[gashonthenail]

Where in Europe are Christians arrested for the crime of "praying in their heads"? And if that's an offense, how do the authorities even know the person is praying?

I just posted a video above of a man being arrested in the UK for praying 'in his head'. There are loads of other cases. Christian preachers have also been arrested for saying 'Bless you' in the street, because those words could cause 'harassment or distress' to non-Christians. Whereas, of course, shouting 'Allahu akbar' in the street is perfectly fine.

 

[nicky wire's legs]

Wow, I can't believe there are still people out there who have no idea what's going on. I wish I was still that ignorant. life was better then. Now I'm angry 1000% of the time.

 

[Lucifer Sam]

And the person was NOT a protestor!! Very clever just slipping that in, audrey! It was a lone person standing on a sidewalk praying in their head not disturbing anyone!!!!

If you don't give me a link to the case, how I supposed to know what the issue is? I'm sorry, but I'm not going to automatically believe someone telling me Christian prayer has been criminalized in England.

I Google'd it based on what you've said so far. Is this the case?

Christian woman arrested for silent prayer receives compensation from police Christian woman arrested for silent prayer receives compensation from police

West Midlands Police pay out £13,000 to Christian volunteer “unlawfully” arrested for praying silently near an abortion facility

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If so, then she was arrested for being in a "buffer zone" and expressing disapproval "by any means." If she had said to the officers, "I'm silently praying to Satan in thanks for all the murdered babies inside," it seems the police would've arrested her under the same code, for supposed expression of approval. In the end, she was acquitted and received a settlement because a judge determined that silent prayer was insufficient evidence for the charge. St. Lawrence was roasted alive on a spit. Show some respect for actual Christian martyrs before flying off the handle. This is hardly "Christianity never more under attack."

Vaughan-Spruce was first arrested in November 2022 for silently praying in a censored “buffer zone”. The zone, covering several streets in the Kings Norton area of Birmingham, was installed by local authorities via a Public Spaces Protection Order and banned all expressions of “approval or disapproval with respect to issues related to abortion services, by any means” within a large vicinity of an abortion facility.​

 

[Lucifer Sam]

I just posted a video above of a man being arrested in the UK for praying 'in his head'. There are loads of other cases. Christian preachers have also been arrested for saying 'Bless you' in the street, because those words could cause 'harassment or distress' to non-Christians. Whereas, of course, shouting 'Allahu akbar' in the street is perfectly fine.

A YouTube video doesn't give me the context of the arrest or tell me what the law is. This is no different than a video of a police shooting without context. If people are being arrested for praying in their head, please cite the statute against silent prayer.

 

[gashonthenail]

A YouTube video doesn't give me the context of the arrest or tell me what the law is. This is no different than a video of a police shooting without context. If people are being arrested for praying in their head, please cite the statute against silent prayer.

Army veteran convicted over silent prayer for aborted son outside clinic

Adam Smith-Connor prayed within a buffer zone which protects users and staff of a Dorset abortion facility from protesters

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Lucifer Sam]

Army veteran convicted over silent prayer for aborted son outside clinic

Adam Smith-Connor prayed within a buffer zone which protects users and staff of a Dorset abortion facility from protesters

www.telegraph.co.uk

This is just what I was discussing with nicky wire's legs (see above). The statute in this article (before I hit the subscription wall) is against "being in a buffer zone," not Christian prayer. I asked for the statute that specifically bans Christian prayer, since that is your claim.

 

[gashonthenail]

This is just what I was discussing with nicky wire's legs (see above). The statute in this article (before I hit the subscription wall) is against "being in a buffer zone," not Christian prayer. I asked for the statute that specifically bans Christian prayer, since that is your claim.

What we are talking about is the use of repressive legislation to target Christians. And only Christians.

 

[Lucifer Sam]

What we are talking about is the use of repressive legislation to target Christians. And only Christians.

Well, your original claim was that "Christianity has never been more under attack," a ludicrous statement to make when you are in a country where old houses have built-in hiding-holes once used for harboring Catholic priests. I seriously doubt that Christian clergy of any denomination in England today have to skulk in the shadows and live in fear for their lives from the state.

So far you have cited some cases of legislation establishing "buffer zones" set specifically around abortion clinics. This does not prohibit the freedom of Christian worship or prayer, except in these designated areas which are an infinitesimal fraction of a percent of the UK landmass. If you are honestly comparing these cases to previous persecutions of Christians throughout history, then I don't know what to say. To anyone else I might say, Google "christian persecution ancient rome" or "christians under dhimmitude," but I know you're smarter than this.

 

[gashonthenail]

Well, your original claim was that "Christianity has never been more under attack," a ludicrous statement to make when you are in a country where old houses have built-in hiding-holes once used for harboring Catholic priests. I seriously doubt that Christian clergy of any denomination in England today have to skulk in the shadows and live in fear for their lives from the state.

So far you have cited some cases of legislation establishing "buffer zones" set specifically around abortion clinics. This does not prohibit the freedom of Christian worship or prayer, except in these designated areas which are an infinitesimal fraction of a percent of the UK landmass. If you are honestly comparing these cases to previous persecutions of Christians throughout history, then I don't know what to say. To anyone else I might say, Google "christian persecution ancient rome" or "christians under dhimmitude," but I know you're smarter than this.

If 'thought crime' can be made punishable in a specific zone, then the next step is suppression of 'thought crime' at the state level, and the international level. We already saw that during the scamdemic, with the suppression of anything critical of lockdowns and mass vaccinations. WHO are still pushing for the Pandemic Prevention, Preparedness and Response Accord, which Biden has accepted in principle. God, I hope Trump's first action when he wins next week, is to rip that abomination up.

Parliament introduces first “thought-crime” into UK law

Amendments to protect silent prayer and consensual conversations fail to gain support.

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[Lucifer Sam]

If 'thought crime' can be made punishable in a specific zone, then the next step is suppression of 'thought crime' at the state level, and the international level. We already saw that during the scamdemic, with the suppression of anything critical of lockdowns and mass vaccinations. WHO are still pushing for the Pandemic Prevention, Preparedness and Response Accord, which Biden has accepted in principle. God, I hope Trump's first action when he wins next week, is to rip that abomination up.

Parliament introduces first “thought-crime” into UK law

Amendments to protect silent prayer and consensual conversations fail to gain support.

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This seems like a Malarkeyean connecting of dots, impenetrable to the uninitiated. The crime isn’t merely to be “thinking something” in a specific zone; in the one case I found, that was thrown out in court as insufficient to meet the statute. And you somehow think this the government getting its foot in the door to an international level of thought-crime policing? How would, say, the Chinese, Israelis, and South Africans agree on which thoughts are verboten? This is an amazing leap from laws addressing abortion clinic access to the global schemes of some Illuminati cabal.

 

[goinghome]

This seems like a Malarkeyean connecting of dots, impenetrable to the uninitiated.

Where is the titular sprite?!

In a long letter from prison addressed but not sent to Bosie, Oscar Wilde wrote:

“I had said of Christ that he ranks with the poets. That is true. Shelley and Sophocles are of his company. But his entire life also is the most wonderful of poems. For ‘pity and terror’ there is nothing in the entire cycle of Greek tragedy to touch it. The absolute purity of the protagonist raises the entire scheme to a height of romantic art from which the sufferings of Thebes and Pelops’ line are by their very horror excluded, and shows how wrong Aristotle was when he said in his treatise on the drama that it would be impossible to bear the spectacle of one blameless in pain...

...To me one of the things in history the most to be regretted is that the Christ’s own renaissance, which has produced the Cathedral at Chartres, the Arthurian cycle of legends, the life of St. Francis of Assisi, the art of Giotto, and Dante’s Divine Comedy, was not allowed to develop on its own lines, but was interrupted and spoiled by the dreary classical Renaissance that gave us Petrarch, and Raphael’s frescoes, and Palladian architecture, and formal French tragedy, and St. Paul’s Cathedral, and Pope’s poetry, and everything that is made from without and by dead rules.”

“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." John 15:18

 

[Lucifer Sam]

“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first." John 15:18

"The vanity of teaching often tempts a man to forget that he is a blockhead."—Lord Halifax.