"America is Black" - Morrissey on U.S. election - Sam Esty Rayner Photography / Facebook


What a bizarre, unhinged rant. This is perhaps one of the most baffling of them all.

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Message from Morrissey

America is Black

In the United States, minorities are the majority. But who would guess such a thing to scan an eye over the political frontrunners in the 2016 election?
Donald Trump is George Wallace.
Hillary Clinton is pooled money.
Neither speaks for modern America. The day when the new President is to be announced is already prepared as a national day of mourning, for there can be no result for the good of all (or even for the good of most). American politics doesn’t work – not even for the American people alone, and each time you vote you support the process. Far from being excited about immediate change, America is already slumped in a head-shaking disbelief.
The myth that ‘anyone’ can become U.S. President neglects to add the crucial ‘if they have 1 billion dollars to fund their campaign’.
Bernie Sanders, being the only candidate to offer change that does not involve bombs and war and bombs and more war, could not possibly be allowed to win because he far too much resembles a human being. He is true and he is honest but he doesn’t have the necessary 1 billion dollar campaign at his fingertips. Despite his quite incredible initial success, he was not ever allowed CNN headlines. As he won an impressive collection of states, CNN would instead announce A LOSS FOR CLINTON, whereas when Clinton wins, the headlines are hers alone, and do not trumpet A LOSS FOR SANDERS. By this we see how Sanders had always been willed to lose. We have been force-fed a Clinton win from the very start of the election, whereas the astonishing gains by Sanders have been reported as someone getting in the way. There has not been a fair media representation of Sanders success because that success makes it very plain that America is not quite robustly convinced of yet another Clinton president, therefore even the bulk of American democrats are already giving the thumbs down to the future President, which doesn’t look terrific on a global level. Whatever will North Korea think?
With the three main political faces of 2016 being white, it becomes clear that Barack Obama did nothing to build black economic power, and perhaps black oppression is now rife throughout America because Obama had made it clear that he does not defend black people (Ferguson is the only example you need, but there are many others). In white-supremacist political Britain, London’s ‘Princess’ Diana (for she wasn’t ever seen in any other part of the country) was wiped-out because, if still alive, she would now have at least three brown children, and they – not the mentally stunted William and Kate, would be the faces of modern political London, and thus the anarchy of monarchy would feel its grip slip.
Black people built modern America, yet there is zero black energy in American politics. It existed at one time (Malcolm X, Dick Gregory, Dr. King, and perhaps James Baldwin), but no more. CNN has given every main headline for the last six months to Donald Trump – who erroneously believes that America is a ‘white’ country (it wasn’t ever so) and who seems to be a whisper away from uttering the word ‘lynching’. Skeletons in rocking chairs are impressed by Trump’s gung-ho aggression … but why? It’s illogical to create more laws against minorities on the basis that minorities statistically break the law more often than middle-class whites, because, after all, laws in America target blacks and Hispanics far more than they target whites, which is why the masculine energy of numerous TV cop ‘reality’ dramas will only show the police chasing poor people (usually black), but never errant bankers or devious lawyers, or judges who applied the wrong sentence. The sadness, of course, is that even now we must talk in terms of black and white or varied color. It is politics, and not the people, who insist upon divides. How else to rule?
The main crisis of this election is that both Clinton and Trump are, once again, the undisputed faces of the already dominant society – a society that does not work for anyone who is not a billionaire. Clinton talks about new freedoms for women as if women have just been invented. In her world, perhaps they have? Whilst it is true that ALL American TV commercials feature middle-class white women, there is admittedly the obligatory Hispanic passer-by - waving and reassuringly happy on the sidelines, looking in. After a historically shocking two years of random murders of black males by white police officers, where in America are the modern black revolutionaries? Nowhere visible. On Skid Row in Los Angeles, none of the thousands of homeless faces are white. Just coincidence? Instead, we see lots of strong masculine black energy with … nothing to do and nowhere to go and no one to make them believe that hope could even exist. This is the truth of America that is alien to Clinton and Trump, and must always remain so.
It is unimaginable for Ethiopia to ever have a white Prime Minister, for the leaders must at least physically resemble the people to some degree - otherwise, chaos.
What America needs for balance is something that it has never had: a black president.

MORRISSEY
29 April 2016.
 
"It’s illogical to create more laws against minorities on the basis that minorities statistically break the law more often than middle-class whites, because, after all, laws in America target blacks and Hispanics far more than they target whites, which is why the masculine energy of numerous TV cop ‘reality’ dramas will only show the police chasing poor people (usually black), but never errant bankers or devious lawyers, or judges who applied the wrong sentence. The sadness, of course, is that even now we must talk in terms of black and white or varied color. It is politics, and not the people, who insist upon divides. How else to rule? "


Laws against minorities? What is he on about?

Well, the laws are applied against minorities more often, and against those who can least afford a lawyer.

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exactly! :thumb: now that the black lives matter movement is getting some recognition, he totally wants to jump on that bandwagon, but he needs to realize that a lot of people are aware of some of his racist statements and they don't believe him. Sorry moz

Huma Lives Matter
 
I forgot to say this: do you know which is the true "minority" in USA and in the world? Rich and powerful people. They are less than 1% of the population. And they rule and exploit the other 99%. Obama, the Queen, Carlos Slim and others are into that 1%. The man who sleeps in the streets, no matter with what kind of skin color he was born, is in the 99%, like the rest of us. That's the true discrimination.
 
What is your f***ing point you ridiculous brownnoser? If you've got something to say then say it. What exactly do you disagree with? Can you even string together a proper sentence? :thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

You're going on ignore, f***ing moron.



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Pleeeeease put me on 'ignore',thank you ! While you're at it... why don't you 'come out of the closet' or are you 'too much of a coward'?


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Given that Morrissey is a millionaire and a gay man who is too much of coward to come out of the closet, I find his take on minorities, divides and telling the oppressed what to do a bit insincere and difficult to take seriously.'

Yeah,because M is part of the millionaire 'gay' majority and wouldn't know anything about being oppressed,etc.
 
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Pleeeeease put me on 'ignore',thank you ! While you're at it... why don't you 'come out of the closet' or are you 'too much of a coward'?

What are you on about?

I am gay, out and proud. :thumb:

I am out to everyone who knows me, it's not a secret.

Do you think you "got" me there or something?

You really are an irredeemable halfwit. :thumb:
 
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What are you on about?

I am gay, out and proud. :thumb:

I am out to everyone who knows me, it's not a secret.

Do you think you "got" me there or something?

I'm really are an irredeemable halfwit. :thumb:


' I am out to everyone who knows me, it's not a secret.' OH ! I'm so sorry then! I shouldn't have said that you are 'too much a coward to come out of the closet' as you said about M. I shouldn't have said that,because I don't know you.

I know you as much as you know M. Which is not much. (oh but YOU know ALL of M's 'secrets' to make accusations) :cool:
 
I forgot to say this: do you know which is the true "minority" in USA and in the world? Rich and powerful people. They are less than 1% of the population. And they rule and exploit the other 99%. Obama, the Queen, Carlos Slim and others are into that 1%. The man who sleeps in the streets, no matter with what kind of skin color he was born, is in the 99%, like the rest of us. That's the true discrimination.

Is that you Bernie?
 
I only put "black" in quotation marks, to try to highlight how people are defined by color of skin, when it's not what I believe defines a human being. I guess it could be taken as mocking President Obama, but I didn't mean it that way. I am "white" and hate racism. That's why it's such a touchy subject, because just talking about it creates hostile reactions like yours. It's like I typed, white supremacy is a tool used to control people. It's divide and conquer.

You're half right. It's not about skin colour. It's about wealth. The establishment, including Obama, use divide and conquer tactics to control individuals.
 
Having no record contract is making his mind mush. Obama is black then is not black then he is then he is not, what a pile of nonsensical rubbish.

Of course he changed from Hillary to Bernie, its the kid thing to do. All the old lefties are doing it.

Morrissey's assertions about race just don't ring true. It seems like he's trying too hard to push his "scandalous" notion.

I mean yes, we now see that America having a black president does not magically mean blacks are better off. But the issue is not the colour of the president. It is about wealth and the control of the establishment.

It's not that Obama is white inside. It's that he is rich inside.

Common ideology trumps common superficial traits like skin colour every time.
 
Seems weird that something wouldn't appear on tty since it is where he writes his official words. Sanders tax plan would cost fifteen trillion but add thirty trillion to the national debt put a sixty percent tax raise on The wealthy and raise taxes on the middle class as well raise interest rates and make things worse for everyone. It would of course also never get through congress and be a giant waste of time and resources. Obama, who has avoided being the black president to his credit, has launched multiple doj investigations into the police department for example in Ferguson, and in many other places, that found a pattern of racialprofiling for profit, as well as pursued issues of clemency and prison reform that congress tries to block at every turn which will if allowed to follow through help a lot of so called minorities (though the Atlantis article of the twilight of white america would say that there is no majority and that the white population isn't even the largest anything anymore). Sanders has lost the black vote by a mile for a reason and is just another white male trying to tell minorities that he's the one they needed to pick. Let's not forget the really sad things he's had to say about blacks and why he lost so many important states with large black populations. His main group of voters are white males and people under twenty five tough even that group hasn't voted or turned out in the numbers they did for Obama.

It is kind of embarrassing to see Hillary's and Bernie's pandering to blacks with idiocy like "I carry hot sauce in my purse." That's just sad, Crooked Hillary!

Really embarrassing actually.

On the other hand, Trump will treat all AMERICANS equally regardless of skin colour and his policies help the poor including the blacks. Trump will be the best president for black Americans since JFK.
 
Well, the laws are applied against minorities more often, and against those who can least afford a lawyer.

Getting more folks working is the biggest step.

When you have a way out of the crime and poverty and can embrace your self-efficacy, a lot of other problems seem to solve themselves.

Trump will do wonders for black Americans and I am truly excited for them. Black Lives Matter is painful to watch. There are so many people out there who would embrace their potential if only their government believed in them as equal and efficacious individuals rather than thinking they need to be pandered to and infantilized.
 
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Proud of what, might I ask?

I am proud of having overcome the tremendous fear and anxiety involved in the coming-out process and having done just that at a fairly young age. I'm proud of having been able to accept, understand and acknowledge my sexuality despite growing up in a Catholic environment being constantly told that I am a vile sinner tantamount to pedophiles and murderers and a freak of nature who deserves to die. I'm proud of being unashamed of who I am, despite there being countless individuals, laws, statutes, organisations, etc that would rather I not be who I am. And I am proud of living my life with integrity, true to myself and pursuing happiness, holding my partner's hand in spite of the nasty stare, the eeeews, the judgemental looks and disapproving glances that still come our way, in 2016.

I am also proud of being fearless now, proud of overcoming gay-bashings, injuries, broken bones, jobs that I didn't get, opportunities that I didn't have, not letting all that scare me / stop me from pursuing my dreams and building the life I want to live.
 
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I am proud of having overcome the tremendous fear and anxiety involved in the coming-out process and having done just that at a fairly young age. I'm proud of having been able to accept, understand and acknowledge my sexuality despite growing up in a Catholic environment having constantly heard that I am a vile sinner tantamount to pedophiles and murderers and a freak of nature who deserves to die. I'm proud of being unashamed of who I am, despite there being countless individuals, laws, statutes, organisations, etc that would rather I not be who I am. And I am proud of living my life with integrity, true to myself and pursuing happiness, holding my partner's hand in spite of the nasty stare, the eeeews, the judgemental looks and disapproving glances that still come our way, in 2016.

I am also proud of being fearless now, proud of overcoming gay-bashings, injuries, broken bones, jobs that I didn't get, opportunities that I didn't have, not letting all that scare me / stop me from pursuing my dreams and building the life I want to live.

you should move to my neighbourhood. you wouldnt get any disapproving looks here. everyone is gay or transgendered here. EVERYONE. except me.
 
exactly! :thumb: now that the black lives matter movement is getting some recognition, he totally wants to jump on that bandwagon, but he needs to realize that a lot of people are aware of some of his racist statements and they don't believe him. Sorry moz

“Dear White People if Trump wins young niggas such as myself are fully hell bent on inciting riots everywhere we go. Just so you know.” (http://dcgazette.com/2016/its-on-bl...violent-threat-to-whire-people-if-trump-wins/)

Sheriff David Clarke: "Well first of all, there is no police brutality in America. We ended that back in the sixties. So I don't know where they're coming from. You look at the data and the research, and there's a new Harvard study out that shows that there is no racism in the hearts of police officers. They go about their daily duty, if you will, to keep communities safe. The president of the United States knows better. He's playing the race game. He's playing race politics. Shame on him. He's been very divisive for this country. He has been a nightmare, and I cannot wait until January 2017 so that America's nightmare can be over... it's garbage. It's a subversive movement. Like I said, they advocate the overthrow of our legally constituted government. It is not a protest movement. " (http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/10/26/fox-regular-david-clarke-black-lives-matter-is/206416)


BLM is being publicized because the establishment wants to foster division. Divide and conquer. What better way than to use the police brutality narrative?

BLM is a spectacular distraction and nothing more. The more their radicalism is legitimized, the more divided individuals become.

BLM is only one example of the left establishment's "divide and conquer" narrative.

This divisive nonsense needs to end and it will not end under Hillary or Sanders.

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I am proud of having overcome the tremendous fear and anxiety involved in the coming-out process and having done just that at a fairly young age. I'm proud of having been able to accept, understand and acknowledge my sexuality despite growing up in a Catholic environment having constantly heard that I am a vile sinner tantamount to pedophiles and murderers and a freak of nature who deserves to die. I'm proud of being unashamed of who I am, despite there being countless individuals, laws, statutes, organisations, etc that would rather I not be who I am. And I am proud of living my life with integrity, true to myself and pursuing happiness, holding my partner's hand in spite of the nasty stare, the eeeews, the judgemental looks and disapproving glances that still come our way, in 2016.

I am also proud of being fearless now, proud of overcoming gay-bashings, injuries, broken bones, jobs that I didn't get, opportunities that I didn't have, not letting all that scare me / stop me from pursuing my dreams and building the life I want to live.

Good. I'm proud of you too then. I have great respect for those who have overcome true adversity.
 
in fact if im going to be quite honest i feel like I get disapproving looks for not being gay. all i know is i am never invited to the barbecues of the shuffle-footed gay couple at work. but what am i supposed to do, cut my hair short, don a denim vest with frayed edges and adopt a thin lipped surly countenance to all and sundry? hmph, i simply refuse. and thus, there is simply nothing for it. it's fine, i wont go to their barbecues, i dont like barbecues anyway. in fact, i cant think of any function to which i'd less like to have to make an appearance.
 
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in fact if im going to be quite honest i feel like I get disapproving looks for not being gay. all i know is i am never invited to the barbecues of the shuffle-footed gay couple at work. but what am i supposed to do, cut my hair short, don a denim vest with frayed edges and adopt a thin lipped surly countenance to all and sundry? hmph, i simply refuse. and thus, there is simply nothing for it. it's fine, i wont go to their barbecues, i dont like barbecues anyway. in fact, i cant think of any function to which i'd rather not make an appearance.

This is why I find the whole idea of segregated "communities" absurd. It creates an inner group and an outer group.

The left seems to want all of the different groups to live together in society but to remain separated into their own realms as if only to be brought together when the left wants to create maladaptive conflict and play the identity politics game.

Heterophobia is not OK just as racism by blacks against whites or sexism by women against men are not OK.

It scares me that so many people are oblivious to the ways in which the current societal structure enforces our differences. What if we just want to be judged as individual human beings and not lumped in and branded with traits that have no bearing on us as individuals?

We are fighting a social and cultural war right now in the West. This election will certainly be of an importance that cannot be overstated.
 
This is why I find the whole idea of segregated "communities" absurd. It creates an inner group and an outer group.

The left seems to want all of the different groups to live together in society but to remain separated into their own realms as if only to be brought together when the left wants to create maladaptive conflict and play the identity politics game.

Heterophobia is not OK just as racism by blacks against whites or sexism by women against men are not OK.

It scares me that so many people are oblivious to the ways in which the current societal structure enforces our differences. What if we just want to be judged as individual human beings and not lumped in and branded with traits that have no bearing on us as individuals?

We are fighting a social and cultural war right now in the West. This election will certainly be of an importance that cannot be overstated.

i was just kidding. ive never experienced heterophobia or anything of the sort. all of us on this here island are laid back and cool-like, see

i have experienced some judgementalism though, like when some egg-looking dolt says something like "i cant imagine rifke smoking" when i make a joke about buying cigarettes. excuse me? i could smoke just as well as anyone. i wouldnt, because im not f***ing stupid and im because im not so odious that i would give money to companies that happily dole out cancer in the form of a tube. but still... i could. sometimes i feel like if it were up to other people, a person wouldnt have any existance outside of what other people imagine they can or cant do. it makes me sick to be pigeon-holed like that and diminished to the size of other peoples depressingly small imaginations.

this has nothing to do with the topic at hand. i just find myself, days later, still annoyed by that comment (made in real life, not here).
 
i was just kidding. ive never experienced heterophobia or anything of the sort. all of us on this here island are laid back and cool-like, see

i have experienced some judgementalism though, like when some egg-looking dolt says something like "i cant imagine rifke smoking" when i make a joke about buying cigarettes. excuse me? i could smoke just as well as anyone. i wouldnt, because im not f***ing stupid and im because im not so odious that i would give money to companies that happily dole out cancer in the form of a tube. but still... i could. sometimes i feel like if it were up to other people, a person wouldnt have any existance outside of what other people imagine they can or cant do. it makes me sick to be pigeon-holed like that and diminished to the size of other peoples depressingly small imaginations.

this has nothing to do with the topic at hand. i just find myself, days later, still annoyed by that comment (made in real life, not here).

I guess what I was alluding to was that for me it is just rather tiresome to have to be identified by other people with their superficial assumptions that people attach to homosexuality.

"Oh you're a f*****? You're a leftist then."
"You must like Madonna."
"You must like clubbing and be an extrovert."

etc. etc.

It's just nonsense. But it demonstrates the pervasiveness of identity politics in everyday cultural and social life. We are influenced into becoming a cut-out of a template because of irrelevant traits.

I for one will be happy when the "gay is great" fad is over. Enough with pseudo-pride parades. Not every homosexual has earned anything in their existence to be proud of (unlike our friend in the post above). Pride is earned. It ought not be heaped on people who are nothing more than narcissists (lots of folks who participate in those events).

Homosexuality is not good. It's not bad. It just is. The end.
 
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