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Please let us know

The following images are potential Morrissey influences, may have been cited or used by him, but have unknown models, artists, photographers etc. If you can identify any - it would really help the Wiki.

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Image used as a backdrop in 2012 (source). From an anonymous person:
I found the backdrop online, if anyone was wondering about that. It doesn't say who they are though, and I googled a bit and all I can find about who they are is 'unknown' so there you go. I guess nobody knows.
Affectionate Musicians
From the Google Historical-Pictorial group, contributed by member "osvaldo".
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13077014@N06/2380893097/ https://www.morrissey-solo.com/media/affectionate-musicians.3885/

Belfast Teenagers
2013 tour backdrop during Smiler With Knife. From:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8722193.stm
Valued exposure: Fashion
Teenagers wearing cropped trousers known as 'parallels', in the ruins of Smithfield Market in Belfast, Northern Ireland, 4 June 1974.
Photo by Frank Tewkesbury/Evening Standard/Getty Images https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/brooklyn-ny-brooklyn-academy-of-music-jan-11-2013-post-show.126666/

video source

Unknown sailor (suggested to be Robert Austin Atherton Jr.), used circa 2009 as a backdrop.
Forum discussion from around that time regarding said.
Morrissey mimicked the image in a press photo.

Sailors in their dress blues on liberty, 42nd Street, New York City, 1957. Photo by Frank Paulin (source). Used as a backdrop in 2014 (displayed during Yes, I Am Blind). The theater marquee features The Strange One, a film Morrissey mentioned in Autobiography.

Pictures of Daily Life in Los Angeles in the 1940s Taken by Max Yavno (source).
Used as a backdrop in (Australia) 2011 & (Australia & Germany) 2014.

"Rise Up!"
Used as a 2017 backdrop.
Limited information.
Thought to be from (or first used by): http://www.theblackbailout.com/ (now defunct)

Bullfighter still.

Some uncertainty remains surrounding the bull fighter pictured. Thought to initially be Álvaro Múnera ("El Pilarico") and then to be Francisco Javier Sánchez Vara.
Used as part of a bullfighting video montage ending with this still from 2017 onwards.

Uncredited war time picture used as a backdrop in 2019.

Uncredited picture used as a backdrop in 2017.

source

"Mafia" image used as a backdrop (during Let Me Kiss You) in 2017. Photography attributed to Chanchal Jabbal (2013) aka "Jabs"/"JabsInc" and models unknown:

Unknown flamenco dancer, identified by Famous when dead.

Photograph of "Sam" from the Royal Javelin Gang used as a backdrop in 2015 during Oboe Concerto

Stock photo used as a backdrop in 2022

Detail of a photo titled "Northern soul dancers, mid-1970s" from the gallery "Doc Marten turns 50" (Chronicle Live) used as a drum head in 2014 and also seen in the Kiss Me A Lot video. The photo also appears on an article on Northern Soul - Underground England.

source
2014 drum

A crop of this image was used on the 2015 Morrissey crew t-shirt:

A video still of a policeman punching an unarmed man in Vallejo, California (March, 2017) was used with the caption 'Who will protect us from the police?` as an official t-shirt. The NME highlighted this shirt in September, 2017.

Animated image used during "I Wish You Lonely" circa 2024, no specific context listed in description of the source:

source

Various Videos

Meat Is Murder - various animal cruelty videos. Example: video from Belfast 2015 - Sam Esty Rayner / YouTube.
Ganglord - various police brutality videos. Example: video from Los Angeles 2017 - Mitch Wight / YouTube.
Who Will Protect Us From The Police? - various police brutality videos. Example: video from Leeds, 2018 - Blinkyfish / YouTube.
Munich Air Disaster 1958 - various football videos and crash news footage. Example: video from Calgary, 2019 (at 49:25 mark) - Sam Esty Rayner / YouTube.
The Bullfighter Dies - various bullfighting videos. Example: video from Calgary, 2019 (at 51:58 mark) - Sam Esty Rayner / YouTube.
Notre-Dame - various footage of the Notre-Dame fire and stock footage of people making a silencing gesture and ending with the text "Silence". Example video from Binyamina, Israel, 2023 - בועז כהן / YouTube.

Various Text

"Happiness" drum header circa 2006. Screenshot from video source.
"Pigsty" drum headers and "Tormentor" on gong circa 2006. Screenshot from video source.
"What Would You Do If You Weren't Afraid?" - text backdrop during Dial-a-Cliché circa 2018. source

Unknown

2004 pass
2013 drum
2017 backdrop during "Everyday Is Like Sunday"
2022 backdrop during "Jim Jim Falls"
Backdrop used during "I Know It's Over" and "Billy Budd"
1999 crew tour pass source
2019 backdrop source

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+[[Category:Influences on Morrissey - Film and Television]]
+[[Category:Influences on Morrissey - Literature]]
+[[Category:Concert Backdrop]]
+[[File:Can you help.jpg | 200px | right | thumb |If you recognise anything,<br>Please let us know]]
 The following images are potential Morrissey influences, may have been cited or used by him, but have unknown models, artists, photographers etc.
 If you can identify any - it would really help the Wiki.
 ==Relevance==
-The following image's photographer & model are unknown. The image was known to be used as a backdrop during 2014 and 2022.
-<gallery>
-File:Tumblr_l2ppu8RhIw1qaqplko1_500_(1).jpg
-</gallery>
-It can be found on the Blogspot site: [https://homodesiribus.blogspot.com/2010/05/miscellaneous-vintage.html? Homodesiribus]
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 Image used as a backdrop in 2012 ([https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/vi%C3%B1a-del-mar-vi%C3%B1a-del-mar-festival-feb-24-2012-post-show.120626/ source]). From an anonymous person:
+<br>
 I found the backdrop online, if anyone was wondering about that. It doesn't say who they are though, and I googled a bit and all I can find about who they are is 'unknown' so there you go. I guess nobody knows.
+<br>
-Affectionate Musicians
+Affectionate Musicians<br>
+From the Google Historical-Pictorial group, contributed by member "osvaldo".<br>
-From the Google Historical-Pictorial group, contributed by member "osvaldo".
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/13077014@N06/2380893097/
 https://www.morrissey-solo.com/media/affectionate-musicians.3885/
 <gallery>
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-Belfast Teenagers
+Belfast Teenagers<br>
+tour backdrop during [[Mention::Smiler With Knife]]. From:<br>
-tour backdrop. From:
+http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8722193.stm <br>
+Valued exposure: Fashion<br>
-http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8722193.stm
+Teenagers wearing cropped trousers known as 'parallels', in the ruins of Smithfield Market in Belfast, Northern Ireland, 4 June 1974.<br>
+Photo by Frank Tewkesbury/Evening Standard/Getty Images
-Valued exposure: Fashion
-Teenagers wearing cropped trousers known as 'parallels', in the ruins of Smithfield Market in Belfast, Northern Ireland, 4 June 1974. Photo by Frank Tewkesbury/Evening Standard/Getty Images
 https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/brooklyn-ny-brooklyn-academy-of-music-jan-11-2013-post-show.126666/
 <gallery>
 File:Belfast teenagers.jpg
+File:Smiler with knife backdrop 2014.jpg | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClcglWc_seg video source]
 </gallery>
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-Sailors in their dress blues on liberty, 42nd Street, New York City, 1957. Photo by Frank Paulin ([https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/a4o45z/sailors_in_their_dress_blues_on_liberty_42nd/ source]). Used as a backdrop in 2014.
+Sailors in their dress blues on liberty, 42nd Street, New York City, 1957. Photo by Frank Paulin ([https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryPorn/comments/a4o45z/sailors_in_their_dress_blues_on_liberty_42nd/ source]). Used as a backdrop in 2014 (displayed during Yes, I Am Blind). The theater marquee features [[Mention::The Strange One]], a film Morrissey mentioned in [[Autobiography]].
 <gallery>
 File:Sailors on liberty nyc 1957.jpg
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 Pictures of Daily Life in Los Angeles in the 1940s Taken by Max Yavno ([https://www.vintag.es/2011/12/pictures-of-daily-life-in-los-angeles.html source]).<br>
-Used as a backdrop in (Australia) 2011 & 2014.
+Used as a backdrop in (Australia) 2011 & (Australia & Germany) 2014.
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 File:Los angeles 1940s.jpg
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 Bullfighter still.<br>
 <gallery>
-File:C085ef17d80ca4199c44fdc37293af61~2.png
+File:Bullfighter backdrop.png
 </gallery>
 Some uncertainty remains surrounding the bull fighter pictured. Thought to initially be Álvaro Múnera ("El Pilarico") and [https://thelastarena.com/2015/02/25/alvaro-munera-this-photo-is-not-what-it-seems/ then to be] Francisco Javier Sánchez Vara.<br>
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-Uncredited web-sourced image.<br>
+"Mafia" image used as a backdrop (during Let Me Kiss You) in 2017. Photography attributed to Chanchal Jabbal (2013) aka "Jabs"/"JabsInc" and models unknown:
-Used during 2020 concerts.<br>
-"You Are The Quarantined"<br>
-Image prevalent across social media at the time. <br>
-(Possibly by an Anthony O'Brien).
 <gallery>
-File:Screenshot_20220718-201625.png
+File:9640899935 7628cd597a.jpg | [https://www.flickr.com/photos/cjabs/9640899935/ source]
+File:Screenshot 20230117-175500.png | [https://youtu.be/9lsDNJr-50Q source]
 </gallery>
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-Uncredited & unknown author - Margaret Thatcher & mounted Policeman image. Known to have been used in 2018 (and possibly prior), the original image is that of police breaking up a picket line during the miner's strike 1984:
+Unknown flamenco dancer, identified by Famous when dead.
 <gallery>
-File:EHrSmiTXkAYGQrP.jpg
+File:Flamenco-dancer.jpg
-File:5SWYOGDE2BD4TH7AYVKSMVCDUM.jpg
+File:Flamenco backdrop.png
-.jpg | [https://teakdoor.com/famous-threads/151550-interesting-black-white-pictures-ripped-net-18-print.html source]
 </gallery>
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-Vintage mugshots circa 2008 ([https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/what-is-the-new-stage-backdrop.88272/ discussion / photos]). Likely from the book [https://www.amazon.com/Least-Wanted-Century-American-Mugshots/dp/3865212913 Least Wanted: A Century of American Mugshots] by Mark Michaelson (see [https://www.flickr.com/photos/leastwanted/2623743247/in/album-72157605962924029/ comments on the flickr photo]).
+Photograph of "Sam" from the Royal Javelin Gang used as a backdrop in 2015 during [[Mention::Oboe Concerto]]
+<gallery>
+File:Sam Royal Javelin gang.jpg
+File:Screenshot 20220725-230032.png
+</gallery>
+-----
+Stock photo used as a backdrop in 2022
+<gallery>
+File:GRP-head-constable-allegedly-commits-suicide-in-UP.jpg
+File:Brighton 20221014 1.jpg
+</gallery>
+-----
+Detail of a photo titled "Northern soul dancers, mid-1970s" from the gallery [https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/lifestyle/nostalgia/gallery/7033628 "Doc Marten turns 50"] (Chronicle Live) used as a drum head in 2014 and also seen in the [[Mention::Kiss Me A Lot]] video. The photo also appears on [https://underground-england.com/northern-soul-history/ an article on Northern Soul - Underground England].
+<gallery>
+ File:Doc marten northern soul dancers 70s.jpg | [https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/lifestyle/nostalgia/gallery/7033628 source]
+ File:Krakow 2014.jpg | 2014 drum
+</gallery>
+A crop of this image was used on the 2015 Morrissey crew t-shirt:
+<gallery>
+File:Morrissey Crew 2015 shirt front.jpg
+File:Morrissey Crew 2015 shirt back.jpg
+</gallery>
+-----
+A video still of a policeman punching an unarmed man in Vallejo, California (March, 2017) was used with the caption 'Who will protect us from the police?` as an official t-shirt. The NME [https://www.nme.com/news/music/morrissey-police-brutality-t-shirt-2142599 highlighted this shirt] in September, 2017.
 <gallery>
-File:Wsr mugshot 1.jpg | [https://journaleast.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/%C9%99n-qorxulu-cinay%C9%99tkarlar/ source]
+File:2017 police video still used as tshirt.jpg | [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4306660/Violent-police-takedown-caught-camera-sparks-outrage.html source]
-File:Wsr mugshot 2.jpg | •Mugshot•in 1940 Robert Taylor, a baker’s assistant, had his mugshot taken at Washington State Reformatory. Accused of forgery in the 1st degree ([https://www.picuki.com/profile/noracmurphyart source]). [https://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/amerikanische-mug-shots-familienalbum-der-anderen-art-fotostrecke-19537.html source]
+File:Morrissey-police-brutality-t-shirt 2017.jpg | [https://www.nme.com/news/music/morrissey-police-brutality-t-shirt-2142599 source]
-File:Mugshot santa monica.jpg | •Mugshot• in October of 1913 Archie Ross Jones was arrested in Santa Monica, CA while drunk for stealing a watch from a fellow bar patron. [https://www.picuki.com/profile/noracmurphyart source]
-File:O2 wireless 2008.jpg
-File:Least wanted.jpg | [https://www.flickr.com/photos/leastwanted/albums/72157605962924029/with/2623743247/ source]
 </gallery>
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+Animated image used during "I Wish You Lonely" circa 2024, no specific context listed in description of the source:
+<gallery>
+File:Pleasing-touch.gif | [https://tenor.com/view/pleasing-touch-gently-touching-me-love-you-gif-14071071 source]
+</gallery>
+==Various Videos==
+* [[Mention::Meat Is Murder (song)|Meat Is Murder]] - various animal cruelty videos. Example: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgJu5JEkgng video from Belfast 2015] - Sam Esty Rayner / YouTube.
+* [[Mention::Ganglord]] - various police brutality videos. Example: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBgUJLT8OQ0 video from Los Angeles 2017] - Mitch Wight / YouTube.
+* [[Mention::Who Will Protect Us From The Police?]] - various police brutality videos. Example: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOZSyj322CI video from Leeds, 2018] - Blinkyfish / YouTube.
+* [[Mention::Munich Air Disaster 1958]] - various football videos and crash news footage. Example: [https://youtu.be/BGb3oZ6_bQU?t=2965 video from Calgary, 2019 (at 49:25 mark)] - Sam Esty Rayner / YouTube.
+* [[Mention::The Bullfighter Dies]] - various bullfighting videos. Example: [https://youtu.be/BGb3oZ6_bQU?t=3118 video from Calgary, 2019 (at 51:58 mark)] - Sam Esty Rayner / YouTube.
+* [[Mention::Notre-Dame]] - various footage of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_fire Notre-Dame fire] and stock footage of people making a silencing gesture and ending with the text "Silence". Example [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ6pJ2iheaw video from Binyamina, Israel, 2023] - בועז כהן / YouTube.
-==Unverified==
+==Various Text==
+<gallery>
+File:Pinkpop June 2006.jpg | "Happiness" drum header circa 2006. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ysBeuAkao4 Screenshot from video source].
+File:V Festival August 2006.jpg | "Pigsty" drum headers and "Tormentor" on gong circa 2006. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nU8nEWydPg Screenshot from video source].
+File:Dial a cliche backdrop 2018.jpg | "What Would You Do If You Weren't Afraid?" - text backdrop during [[Mention::Dial-a-Cliché]] circa 2018. [https://www.instagram.com/p/BrHPi0lAAEJ/ source]
+</gallery>
+==Unknown==
+<gallery>
+File:2004 aftershow pass.jpg | 2004 pass
+File:Morrissey-2013-Concert-Review-Mondavi-Center-Music-March-4-Set-List-The-Smiths-044.jpg | 2013 drum
+File:Backdrop everyday 2017.png | 2017 backdrop during "Everyday Is Like Sunday"
+File:Jim jim falls 2022.jpg | 2022 backdrop during "Jim Jim Falls"
+File:Our billy.jpg | Backdrop used during "I Know It's Over" and "Billy Budd"
+File:MORRISSEY OYEESTEBANUSATOUR-623816b.jpg | 1999 crew tour pass [https://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=623816 source]
+File:MORRISSEY-06a-by-Steve-Jennings.jpg | 2019 backdrop [https://plsn.com/articles/wide-focus/morrissey-tour-2019/ source]
+</gallery>
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-[[Category:Influences on Morrissey - Literature]]
-[[Category:Concert Backdrop]]