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THE SMITHS Single
Name	Barbarism Begins At Home
Release	February 1985 (Album) April 1985 (Single) Not released in the UK until 1988 on CD
Total Length	6:55 (Album version) 3:53 (Single version)
Recorded	Circa late 1984
Writer/composer	Morrissey / Johnny Marr
Producer	Johnny Marr Stephen Street (Recording Engineer)
Art work	Cover star: Viv Nicholson image taken from her book: "Spend Spend Spend" (1977) Layout: Caryn Gough
Vinyl Etching	THESE ARE THE GOOD TIMES
Publisher	Rough Trade Records (UK) Sire Records (US)
Format(s)	7" Vinyl, 12" Vinyl, CD
Chart position	Wasn't a UK single release
Single chronology
Shakespeare's Sister ← Barbarism Begins At Home → The Headmaster Ritual

Information

12" Vinyl

Germany - [Rough Trade RTD 021 T]

Barbarism Begins At Home – 7:00 (Morrissey/Marr)
Shakespeare's Sister – 2:09 (Morrissey/Marr)
Stretch Out And Wait – 2:37 (Morrissey/Marr)

12" Vinyl UK Promo

UK - [Rough Trade RTT 171]

Barbarism Begins At Home – 7:00 (Morrissey/Marr)
Barbarism Begins At Home – 3:48 (Morrissey/Marr)

CD

UK - [Rough Trade RTT 171CD]

Barbarism Begins At Home – 7:00 (Morrissey/Marr)
Shakespeare's Sister – 2:09 (Morrissey/Marr)
Stretch Out And Wait – 2:44 (Morrissey/Marr)

Lyrics

Unruly boys
who will not grow up
must be taken in hand
Unruly girls
who will not settle down
they must be taken in hand

A crack on the head
is what you get for not asking
and a crack on the head
is what you get for asking

Live History

Play count (The Smiths concert): 84

The Smiths live history:

... further results

The Smiths live history - played in concert twice:

Hamburg, Germany 1984-05-04 (The Smiths concert)

Play count (Morrissey concert): 0

Appears On

Cover Versions

Discogs Information

Credits

Bass Guitar, Cello - Andy Rourke
Drums - Mike Joyce
Engineer - Stephen Street
Guitar, Piano - Johnny Marr
Lacquer Cut By - Günter Pauler
Layout - Caryn Gough
Music By - Johnny Marr
Producer - The Smiths
Sleeve, Voice, Words By - Morrissey

Notes

- Many copies came with a glued white sticker "810 088-100" on the front.

Engineered by Stephan Street [mistype on both labels]

From the LP »Meat is Murder« (RTD 28) [printed on A-label]

[Additionally printed on the sleeve without the double quotes] "Cover Star: VIV NICHOLSON in ‘Viv At The Pithead’ (Courtesy of Syndication International): Here is Viv with suitcase before going to Malta on a later spending-spree after tragedy had almost robbed her of what remained of her fortune"

"All god's Children Got Wings"

Images

Barbarism Begins At Home / Shakespeare's Sister - Discogs master release: https://www.discogs.com/master/21019
Barbarism Begins At Home / Shakespeare's Sister (7" 45 RPM Single) - Discogs release: https://www.discogs.com/release/2071878-The-Smiths-Barbarism-Begins-At-Home-Shakespeares-Sister

Discogs information (additional release)

Notes

Cover star: VIV NICHOLSON in 'Viv At The Pithead' (courtesy of syndication International). "Here is Viv with suitcase before going to Malta on a later spending-spree after tragedy had almost robbed her of what remained of her fortune.".

Recorded in Liverpool, October 1984 and at Ridge Farm, Surrey, January 1985.

"Barbarism Begins At Home" From the LP >>Meat Is Murder<< (RTD28)

c 1985 Warner Bros. Music Ltd.

Images

Barbarism Begins At Home / Shakespeare's Sister (12" 45 RPM Single) - Discogs release: https://www.discogs.com/release/685199-The-Smiths-Barbarism-Begins-At-Home-Shakespeares-Sister

Discogs information (additional release)

Notes

Cover star: VIV NICHOLSON in 'Viv At The Pithead' (courtesy of Syndication International). "Here is Viv with suitcase before going to Malta on a later spending-spree after tragedy had almost robbed her of what remained of her fortune".

Recorded in Liverpool, October 1984 and at Ridge Farm, Surrey, January 1985.

Made in France

Images

Barbarism Begins At Home (Single Reissue) - Discogs release: https://www.discogs.com/release/485787-The-Smiths-Barbarism-Begins-At-Home

Wikipedia Information

"Barbarism Begins at Home" is a song by the English rock band the Smiths. Featured on their second studio album, Meat Is Murder (1985), the song has a lyric condemning child abuse and a funk-inspired track based around Andy Rourke's bass line. "Barbarism Begins at Home" was given an initial limited release in Germany and Italy in April 1985 but was not released as a single in the UK until 1988. It has since seen positive critical reception and became a live favourite during the band's lifetime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarism_Begins_at_Home

Related Forum Threads

The Smiths A-Z: "Barbarism Begins at Home" - Morrissey-solo (Jan 12, 2022)

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+| Writer = [[Writer::Morrissey]] / [[Writer::Johnny Marr]]
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+| Producer = [[Producer::Johnny Marr]]<br>[[Stephen Street]] (Recording Engineer)
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 | Vinyl Etching = THESE ARE THE GOOD TIMES
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 | Format =  7" Vinyl, 12" Vinyl, CD
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+| Release = February 1985 (Album)<br>April 1985 (Single)<br>Not released in the UK until 1988 on CD
-| Chart = UK #
+| Chart = Wasn't a UK single release
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 [[Category:The Smiths Lyrics]]
 ==Information==
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-===Recording===
+Germany - [Rough Trade RTD 021 T]
-===Release===
-==Track list==
-===7" Vinyl===
-UK - []<br>
-US - []
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-===CD Single===
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+UK - [Rough Trade RTT 171CD]
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 == Lyrics ==
-{{lyrics
+<poem>
-|
 Unruly boys
-Who will not grow up
+who will not grow up
-Must be taken in hand
+must be taken in hand
 Unruly girls
-Who will not settle down
+who will not settle down
-They must be taken in hand
+they must be taken in hand
 A crack on the head
-Is what you get for not asking
+is what you get for not asking
-And a crack on the head
+and a crack on the head
-Is what you get for asking
+is what you get for asking
+</poem>
-Unruly boys
+{{CommonSongSections | Artist =  The Smiths | Song = {{#replace:{{#replace:{{PAGENAME}}| (single)|}}| (song)|}}}}
-Who will not grow up
+{{Page
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+|RelatedForumThreads=149024
-Unruly girls
+|DiscogsReleaseId=2071878
-Who will not settle down
+|DiscogsAdditionalReleaseId=685199, 485787
-They must be taken in hand
+|WikipediaPageTitle=Barbarism_Begins_at_Home
+}}
-A crack on the head
+{{PageDate
-Is what you get for not asking
+|Date=1985-04-01
-And a crack on the head
-Is what you get for asking
-No, a crack on the head
-Is what you get for not asking
-And a crack on the head
-Is what you get for asking
-A crack on the head
-Is just what you get
-Why, because of who you are
-And a crack on the head
-Is just what you get
-Why, because of what you are
-A crack on the head
-Because of
-The things you said
-That you said
-The things you did
-Unruly boys
-Who will not grow
-Must be taken in hand
-Unruly girls
-Who will not grow
-They must be taken in hand
-Ah, oh, no, oh, no
-Ah, oh, no, oh, no
-No, no, no, no
-Ah, oh, no, oh, no
-Ah, oh, no, oh, no
-No, no, no
 }}
-==Personnel==
-* [[Morrissey]] - Vocals
-* [[Johnny Marr]] - [[Guitarists|Guitars]], [[Keyboardists|piano]]
-* [[Andy Rourke]] - [[Bassists|Bass guitar]]
-* [[Mike Joyce]] - [[Drummers|Drums]]
-* [[Producers|Producer]] - [[The Smiths]]
-* Producer - [[John Porter]] (US CD Edition)
-* Engineer - [[Stephen Street]]
-== Sleeve Artwork ==
-<gallery  perrow="6">
- File: | Cover art. (198)
-</gallery>
-==Music Video==
-===Credits===
-==Live History==
-==Appears On==
-<gallery  perrow="8">
- File: | ''[[]]'' <br><br><br>(19)
- File: | ''[[]]'' <br><br><br>(19)
- File: | ''[[]]'' <br><br><br>(19)
- File: | ''[[]]'' <br><br><br>(19)
- File: | ''[[]]''<br><br><br> (19)
-</gallery>
-== Related Items ==
-== References ==