It's kind of a shame though. I think the label would have let him do whatever he wanted. Most Maverick artists I can think of get lavish promo items made up and tons of press promotion. Ms. Morrisette has made boatloads of money for the label, why not spend it on someone good? Maybe I've answered my own question...maybe he'd rather eat dirt than be an associate of Alanis Morrisette.

Thank you, Morrissey.
Thank you.

p.s. stay away from internet companies. the internet is where artists go to die.

his tour is most certainly not pissing me off AT ALL! I love to see him this way, so lively, so much enjoying himself. He*ll put something out whenever he feels like it. And if he feels like touring, he should go for it! Oh, and he*s always done whatever he feels like, that*s what I love most about him!

No Madonna, don't do it until you get a DEMO! Just listen to Southpaw, Maladjusted, and Kill Uncle!!

MORRISSEY SUCKS!!!!!

Its totally insulting Morrissey, by asking him for a demo. I would personally tell them the same by saying piss off. Do you even know who i am. Buy a single/album and get a clue.

Maybe Morrissey should sign on with Armstrong at Hellcat, or maybe join Epitaph.

Armstrong is a genious and I think it would be great if he produced Morrissey's latest stuff. I am sure that Boz and Alain would get along with the other members of Rancid as well!

Am I onto something here people, or what? I am totally serious!

S.P. Riley reporting from Moz Mateo, California

"Cowboy" came and sank without a trace! And that was 3 years ago...

Keep in mind, Guy Oseary runs Maverick...Madonna just signs the checks.

Quite right - who the hell does she think she is asking for a demo like he's some newcomer- that Morrissey would be on that slapper's roster, one of 'her boys' is unthinkable . @#!!! off Madonna!!

Don't throw your money away on some half-bashed out tunes. Make the man WORK for his money! And by the way, you should get William Orbit to produce Steven's album while you're at it!

s.p. riley I like your idea about MOZ and Rancid.

p.s. madonna musta
been on crack to ask MORRISSEY
for a demo.

jason
xoxox

Anna aka the Moz and Maddy FAN!

you can kiss my hairy ass. i'm sure you don't have a clue of what kind of music he really plays, You dumb ass!! just save your stupid little comments towards artists you don't like that's all. thank you!

Are you an accountant? I hear they have job openings at Maverick.

Morrissey isn't every Tom, Dick or Harry, which is why he shouldn't have to submit a demo like one.

None of the labels who have signed him knows what to do!

jason
xoxo

Thanks for the sarcasm, it made me laugh!

I was just reiterating what "Morrissey Sucks" had the sense, for once, to spout....namely, that some of Morrissey's stuff is substandard. Granted, he has a higher quality control than many artists, but I hope his next album (if it is released, and if it is his last) is a high note to go out on.

He said in the recent Face interview that Rough Trade looks like a strong possibility, but who knows?

the envelops were empty. they were made out of delicate opaque white paper. i didn't know what maverick was at the time so i went home and punched in the address on the back of the envelope into altavista.com. sure enough there was a match with maverick records.

also in the trash bin: guitar strings, an empty box of hankechiefs and bananas from Trader Joe's.

This is what I know about the music industry. Unless you're going to be one of the few artists a label will market to death (Mariah Carey and so forth - about 1% of the bands they sign) a major label is just a stupid thing to consider. They sucker a lot of eager 18 year olds into signing their contracts, but I'd hope Morrissey is wiser than that at his age. Now maybe Maverick is considered somewhere in between a major and an indie, but I think it's a major. Morrissey is not going to sweep the world by storm at this point. He's pretty much locked into the cult artist category. Which is a very good place to be. Given that, he's not going to get heavily promoted by a major. If by some miracle he gets a surprise hit single sometime, it will be by accident, not because the music industry tried to make it happen. On a good indie with distribution he'll get a higher percentage of the sales back so he won't have to sell a million records to do OK. Alternative rock came and went in the mainstream, and if they didn't play Morrissey in the '90s, they're even less likely to play him in 2000. It's all getting ultra-conservative again, and I the underground will develop on the Internet in response to this. He just needs a siutation where he can record whatever he wants to, get it into stores, and tour. He doesn't even really need a label to do that anymore, but I'm sure many indies would love to have him.

Remember that no major label has ever done anything for Morrissey before, even though he was on majors for years. They offer nothing for him.

you say Morrissey has put out "substandard" stuff in recent years. Substandard compared to his past msuic, or substandard compared to other artists?
I ask because when I look at Morrissey's past several albums and b-sides I can't think of anyone else who has as many good songs over the past 5 or 6 years. Can you?

Songs like "Lost" and "Nobody Loves Us" belong on the radio! They would be hits. They would make people happy. Hang the DJs!

Please, the man has lost the touch. He is SO full of himself that he does not give a s-h-i-t what his fans think. The fans are to blame because they keep buying the garbage (albeit in less quantities then prior) this fool puts out.

Send your money to someone who earns it and respects there fans for real (Johnny Marr's new band maybe).

MORRISSEY SUCKS!

What is your problem? Did you ask Morrissey out
on a date and he told YOU to F-U-C-K OFF!?
There is nothing wrong with Southpaw Grammar.
You are believing, you do not want to sleep.

No, Morrissey asked ME on a date and I said "Ya, who are you again. Oh ya, the guy from the Smiths."

if you think that MORRISSEY sucks then why do you come here??idiot!

p.s.
go suck a big d!ck

NO RECORD LABEL EVER EVER EVER WOULD BE STUPID ENOUGH TO SIGN MORRISSEY IF THEY KNEW HIS NEXT ALBUM WOULD BE, DRUMROLL, *****MEXICAN THEME******

AHAHHA You all forgot about that, its true though, right from Boz's mouth, ... if you were Maverick wouldnt you want to be sure you werent signing some old british dude who thinks he's EL Guapo E'spanol? :P Would you buy that album? haha

Devoted Fan:
Girl Afraid (MOZ FOREVER!!!!)
Moz Angeles, CA

I mean that the man's work has been substandard to what he has done in the past and what he has capable of. He has put out some great songs in the past five years, but his last two albums are smattered with greatness, but also of averageness.
some great songs , and a number of, to my ears at least, avergae songs.

and what's with his pick of singles? he has often not picked the right songs as singles. "dagenham dave"? and it's backed by "nobody loves us", a song i can imagine that would widen his audience, and garner radio play without too much problem.

"satan rejected..." should have been his "comeback" single, but it was preceded by "alma matters", which did not leave much of an impression on me. yes, it's a not bad song, and yes it's better than many other artists' releases recently, but how often do you listen to it?

also, i'm wondering about this mexican flavour to his new work? interesting.

I'm not suggesting that Morrissey is hispanic and willing to be a fake like those mentioned but in a time here it seems like everything hip is latin explotion. David K... get a clue with your racist attitudes towards this potential Mexican theme. FOr god sakes, even Julio Igelias JR. is getting a record deal, but i'm sure its because he's going more brit pop. Take and long walk on a short pier David and due us all that favor. And plase don't responed so you won't start a Anti-Mexican discussion board again. But get in touch with the real world before you post your one-minded thoughts.

Christina Agulilar comes to mind as another....

"Young girl one day you will be old, but the thing is ... I LOVE YOU NOW!!!

John Cale, master of viola squeals and synthesizers, is going to produce a Mexican themed album with life-long rockabilly devotees Boz and Alain writing the Mariachi music, Gary Day playing up-right bass, and Spike playing bongos.

Yes I know how the quote goes at the end of the song Rubber Ring. (Re: posts # 60&61)
What I AM quoting is an ecthing on one of the Smiths singles
(I forget which one) the quote is from Rubber Ring and is reversed and reads: "you are believing, you do not want to sleep."
In the sense of someone believing something and being so desturbed by it, they are plagued be insomnia.

You retort to my first post was brainless by the way.

PS-Thanks for the attention Rockabilly Boy, however, your opinions mean nothing to me, but thanks all the same.

Take care all, and remember Morrissey Sucks!

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How the hell can you assume that Im racist from that post? You are obviously a) racist yourself, seeing as your so uptight that you can pass value judgements on someone becuase the topic of the post was about culture; b) Your just simply retarded. I think B personally. As for what I said, I stand by it. If I were mexican, I wouldnt want Morrissey representing my culture, beiung british, hes the farthest thing from it... Grasp some other straws buddy...

If it is true, and Morrissey has looked the gift Madonna in the mouth, then he has no one else to blame but himself if no other label wants to take him under their wings.

Let's say that he did tell that ol' slut to go f-u-c-k off, why doesn't he just go indy? I mean, Jonny, Andy and Mike couldn't have blead him THAT dry, could they?

Just go to their site and watch the band names scroll up and picture "MORRISSEY" coming next...
Quite odd...

if you read carefully, i stated racist comment and NOT racist person. It must be the power of suggestion to take it in a direct way. Know David is there something hiden about you that you want to let out...

from madonna's perspective, it most certainly is not the same thing. Elvis revolutionized the entire face of popular music by making rock and roll popular and somewhat socially acceptable (at the time). David Bowie is a marketing and musical genius who has released many many more times the number of records that Morrissey ever will. He is a media god. Morrissey has written and performed many songs that touch the hearts of many people (including me), but in the larger scheme of this business (that's what labels do: sell things), he's not nearly on the same level as those two.
As an aside, however, since Bowie's so experimental, I could totally see asking him for a demo if he weren't so established: it's completely valid to see where new material is coming from before blindly signing an artist, if only to make sure he hasn't gone off the musical deep end.
The same goes for Moz. His sound has undergone many shifts, some more popular than others, and certain critics hate him, so he's not exactly a sales shoo-in. Look at Maladjusted's sales records. So it is definitely within Madonna's rights to ask him for a demo, and it might even be in Moz's best creative interest to get head-start feedback on new material.
But it also within Moz's rights to hold up his principles by shunning any label with whose image, owner, or way of doing business he disagrees, and it is for this reason that, if this post is true, I salute him.

The reason that I am critical of Morrissey? Well, could it be that;
1) I enjoy victimising the man
2) I am really a Backdoor Boys fan, and think that Morrissey is a moaning misery-guts
3) I am a fan of Morrissey, but do not look at all his work with carnage visors, sorry, rose-tinted spectacles.

Yes, it's number three if you didn't guess. And Southpaw Grammar in "great album" shock? Aside from Southpaw and Reader meets..., I'm hard-pressed to think of another good song on it.

And what does narcoleptic mean?@Something to do with sleep....

Re: backdoor boys. No, it's not that. I didn't know if you did that on purpose or if you were really out of it.

Ta for the info, I seem to recall reading about narcolepsy...maybe Colin Wilson?

IF YOU SEE THIS STEVEN PATRICK MORRISSEY?
MAKE THE DEAL EVEN IF IT'S JUST A ONE ALBUM DEAL
YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT.
BUT IF YOU DON'T I WOULD STILL SEE THE POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE MORRISSEY.
EITHER WAY YOUR NEW ALBUM IS COMING ALONG GREAT, I'M SURE AND YOU WILL RELEASE IT REGARDLESS!
AND YOUR SUCCESS IS ALREADY THERE, EVEN IF YOU START YOUR OWN LABEL YOU CAN NOT GO WRONG.

- LOVE LUCIFER

- LOVE LUCIFER

you have to admit that many people on this board are not exactly in high school...you know....started watching VH1...haven't bought a new album in 3 years....complaining about those kids and their darn music...i didn't know if you fell in that category or not since "Backdoor Boys" sort of sounds like a dad-ism.

sounds familiar that one of the Wilsons had narcolepsy. I do know Brian Wilson had some guy take control of him and brainwash him for a while.

Anyway, I think it's safe to assume "pet sounds" was not a huge influence on Morrissey.

not charles Manson...or even Marilyn. There was some leach hanger on that realized Brian Wilson was a puddle of drool from his drug problems and decided to "help" him out.

How do I remember this? Two of his daughters...who were in Wilson Philips were on some show once complaining how they never saw their dad, who was always in the company of this guy...they even wrote a song about it. this was back in the day when they had careers.

Btw, why should we know you by the trail of the nacroleptics?

there is a local band called

...and you shall know us by the trail of the dead.

I may not be good at murder, but I can put people to sleep.

My opinion, is, well, my opinion. I don't ask for feedback, it is just given to me.

I just think that Morrissey Sucks right now and until he does something to prove otherwise, well, MORRISSEY JUST SUCKS!