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Comments / Notes
Wouldn't you have liked to be a fly on the wall in that Paris tea room? Two lumps, please.
Gustaf <[email protected]>
- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 10:47:02 (PDT)
Boy George sucks!
Bjørn Ove <[email protected]>
- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 11:14:06 (PDT)
That's predictable. Whenever somebody famous (who isn't Morrissey) gets mentioned on this site, everybody says 'they suck'. Because they're not Morrissey. I like Boy George.
laughable life
- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:14:56 (PDT)
I agree with you "Laughable Life" it seems everyone who visits Morrissey-Solo website and happens to read something that goes against their happy little Morrissey Subliminal world they get upset and say that person sucks but you have to remember that your dealing with mostly very young kids who have been brainwashed by Morrissey for the past 11 years since he has been a solo artist.
Alaxander Decay <[email protected]>
CA, USA - Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:33:49 (PDT)
did any of you really think that Morrissey and Boy George would get along? Give me a break....I would be wondering what was worng with both of them if they got along......At least george commented favorably on the music....and I doubt Morrissey would be so kind as to say that the Karmakarmalizardsong included some of the "best lyrics of the last twenty years"! We should be happy Mr. george isn't so drugged out he is blind to brilliance......
Iamawas <[email protected]>
Florida - Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 13:34:26 (PDT)
Well, Mr. Decay. I`m 30 years old, and really not brainwashed at all. If you like that weird creature with corpse make up... Be my guest.
Bjørn Ove <[email protected]>
- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 15:30:20 (PDT)
I wonder is the tea party was predeeded by an invitation from either one of them, or if it was set up by PR people for a photo op or interview? The whole situation would have an effect on the way both of them might respond. Remember also that Moz doesn't want to be dragged out of his closet by a drag queen!
Windigo
- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 17:33:18 (PDT)
I don't know how recent this was, but I read in an interview that Morrissey was reading Boy George's autobiography. I don't recall the exact comments, but he mentioned that, although he was never really into Culture Club, he was thoroughly enjoying the book and, in fact, couldn't put it down. He called Boy George a very humorous individual. He also pointed out that it was also interesting because he know lots of the people mentioned in the book. I wonder if this meeting took place before, or after he read the book. If it was after, I wonder if the meeting was arranged because Morrissey enjoyed the read.
Lifeguard Commenting
- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 19:09:54 (PDT)
Firstly Bjorn do u really have to state the obvious? I'm sure Boy George will be the first one to admit he sucks (cock that is), which is more than your dear Stephen will. And Iamawas, while I agree that Morrissey produced some wonderful music with The Smiths and during his early solo career his latest releases have seen him plundering the depths of mediocrity - Dagenham Dave indeed, darling. Meanwhile Boy George has gone from strength to strength a sa singer, dj, writer and general icon. Oh and if your karmakarmalizard pun is an attempt at wit please in future don't bother.
Angel <[email protected]>
England - Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 19:34:22 (PDT)
Hmmmmmm.......never fails to amuse me..... If you weren't there, which not a one of you were, then you don't know what happened. Boy is a charming person who has grown up tremendously over the past decade. His wit and humour are very similiar to that of your idol. His book was indeed funny and a must read for any anglophiles in the crowd. It is o.k. to enjoy the music of more than one artist by the way!
watching with a grin
loose angeles - Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 20:14:25 (PDT)
Boy is a bitch, and a fat ugly one at that, but at least his comments are witty - not as good as Moz, for he's just a stupid old closet read I'm an arcane old wardrobe! I like Culture Club but I suspect that's cos they're 80s If I was older then I'm sure I wouldn't have liked them as much, although their early stuff, the ultra-embarrassing War Song aside still holds up.
Boy George was a real icon then with massive influence, really making gayness visible - I remember my social education teacher, who really should know better, said that homosexuality came into fashion because of him! I wonder if Moz should come out, maybe people would respect him more if he did, but that would be like an admission of happiness and maybe he'd lose fans who'd think he was lying before, making all those words up to get fame.. oh well, the vexed question indeed!
John <[email protected]>
Glasgow, Scotland, UK - Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 20:47:30 (PDT)
I think Morrissey dislikes Boy because he's too flaming. Morrissey's gay as hell, but he's so in the closet; well... you know how he is, but Boy burned the closet he came out of a long time ago. He's too gay for Morrissey. Even though Morrissey's even a bit too gay for me.
Marrissey
- Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 21:50:12 (PDT)
Boy George outlasted his 15 minutes of fame quite some time ago, which explains his obvious bitterness. Morrissey said it best "...popular music is ruled by those with big mouths and small minds!"
Martin
- Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 00:12:55 (PDT)
Long live the closet that remains. A curtain call for dear old boy and the mozzer still remains. And though it seems the fire's out, it still is quite the same. Don't you wish you knew how to accept your own hypocrisies. Yes....Indeed.
Javier Obregon <HeDrewAMozzerOnMyNeck>
Montclair, CA - Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 06:03:43 (PDT)
No, Boy George really does suck, regardless if he said anything bad about Moz or not.
jeremy <[email protected]>
nowhere in particular - Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 07:27:24 (PDT)
i really thought gustav's comment (the first in this list) was the best :)....summed up the whole thing really....
ciao julie
julie <[email protected]>
oz - Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 08:00:31 (PDT)
Who really cares what that old queen has to say anyway? The only thing that he has done worth any significance is tea with Morrissey. I noticed many people who comment do in fact take a very defensive stance and to them i say relax a bit. If anyone has any negative comments about the Smiths or Morrissey, let them-just keep in mind the source.
If someone as vile as Boy George, Dave Gahan or Robert Smith talked about how well they get on with Morrissey then we would all be in trouble. I would rather they talk bad about him and show envy (masked behind spite), than pat him on the back and say, "He's one of us."
Johnny Marr <[email protected]>
Southern California - Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 09:40:21 (PDT)
My favorite part is: "Because he just didn't speak!". Sometimes words just get in the way of a nice afternoon tea.
Marvin <[email protected]>
Guatemala - Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 10:48:53 (PDT)
I found it extremely intriguing what various celebrities have said about Morrissey, mainly his being difficult (Siouxie - I'm paraphrasing) and quiet (Boy George). Here he is, this brilliant lyricist who spews forth wit and charm in interviews and yet, in person-to-person meetings with famous folk (and perhaps most people?) he's this awkward, difficult, uncomfortable human being...no point to this, realy - I just find it fascinating.
Oh, and Madonnissy, I don't think Morrissey dislikes "flaming" gays (if you'll recall, he had drag queens open up a Smiths show in California, and you mustn't forget Candy Darling as cover star, and then there's Pete Burns); I just don't think he was ever keen on using it as an image for himself.
Sorry for the long post.
Lifeguard Commenting
- Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 11:19:22 (PDT)
I have to agree with julie that gustaf's comment was the best one...much better than mine.... I was hoping to incite some drag queens and I think I succeeded....Im still in the closet with moz
Iamawas <[email protected]>
- Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 11:50:24 (PDT)
I got to talk to one of the guitarists backstage at a World Party show. One question I had for him dealt with what he thought of Morrissey (being a Brit and all). He mentioned that most Brits think Morrissey's just a "wanker". Why can't fans realize that maybe he's just a big jerk? I mean, I've been a huge fan since Viva Hate and I've been able to live with it. Why can't everyone else?
mike <[email protected]>
- Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:32:25 (PDT)
Lifeguard commenting - I didn't make the remark about Moz hating flaming gays! it was the one below me - with the similar name, great minds think alike hehe, or not as the case may be.. we are all just ripping off the great Moz's lyrics for inspiration - dial a cliche indeed! :o)
John <[email protected]>
Glasgow, Scotland, UK - Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 14:23:48 (PDT)
My apologies, Madonissey :)
Lifeguard Commenting
- Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 16:44:35 (PDT)
I remember reading that Boy had Haeven Knows in his answering machine when he had drug and court problems. And how he praised Interlude.
benji
Spain - Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 06:18:37 (PDT)
Iamawas:
You say you're in the closet with Morrissey, yet your AOL profile says you despise homophobia.
I'm lost here.
John tha...well, you know
- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 07:57:46 (PDT)
hmmm homophobia or being in a closet with moz? hmmm i'd pick being in a closet with moz any time. (oh sorry, off the track again).
ciao julie
julie <[email protected]>
oz - Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 08:38:25 (PDT)
FYI, homophobia means disliking people whatever their sexual preferences may be - maybe he meant that...
or he really has a super sense of humor!
noam <[email protected]>
dear charles - Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 16:09:26 (PDT)
It really is funny how a "flaming Gay" who "sucks" can inspire the comments of 30-year olds and the Morrissey-brainwashed alike.
Morrissey is forever mutable and has as many opinions as he does suffering anecdotes. Boy George is too freaky for himself half of the time.(hence, the heroin-escape route).
Really, who gives a @#!!!, they are both loaded and I am poor as dirt in Alabama, sacraficing a loaf of bread just to listen to the both of them drone on.
They probably both can't wait to shag each others brains out!!!
Now that is when I would want to be a fly on the wall!
kate <[email protected]>
- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 18:59:12 (PDT)
Boy George said that he thinks Morrissey is a genious and has written some of the best songs ever. Isn't that a good thing? He doesn't have to bloody well like him. Considering some of the things he said about people in his autobiography, I think Morrissey got out of it pretty well.
Morrissey and Boy George shagging their brains out..Interesting mental picture there ;-)
Some people are so precious about Morrissey - not everyone who meets him has to love him you know...
Kelly
- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 21:09:36 (PDT)
he probably made a pass and morrissey became nauseous. who is he anyway? hes a neverwas that never could have been.
mich
- Wed, Jul 07, 1999 at 23:10:56 (PDT)
NOAM!!!!! We absolutely MUST have words! "homophobia means ...." Now, If we're going to split hairs, the words means a fear of the same. Homo - same. Phobia - fear.
But in our current society, there can be no debate that it has taken on the connotation of a fear or dislike of homosexuals! It is cut and dried!
John In NJ <[email protected]>
Trenton, NJ - Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 06:23:21 (PDT)
Is there any truth to the rumour that there was a (very famous) third person having tea with Morrissey and Boy George in Paris? That person being a one Tom Petty. Can someone confirm this?
Break4Love
MARS - Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 12:46:27 (PDT)
More on Morrissey and Boy's brush with fame via Mr. Petty.
I guess Tom was in that Paris cafe with his daughter. When Morrissey (who is huge fan of Mr. Petty and the Heartbreakers) recognized the legendary Rock and Roller, he approached Tom and introduced himself. Ironically, Tom's daughter (who is a fan of both Moz and Boy) was just as pleased to meet the two gentlemen.
(This is what I've heard. Is it true?)
Break4Love
MARS - Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 07:26:36 (PDT)
I laughed my head of when I saw Boy George's quote "He's just a stupid old closet". If Boy had his way he would out all the gay pop stars and god there are many of those. I think I would have snubbed him also and just enjoyed my tea - but quite how the arrangement of them having tea together in Paris in the first place surprises me! I'm sure he would rather a location like Workington motor cafe instead wouldn't he?
Geroge was quite funny though on the recent Jo Whiley show on C4 when him and fellow queen Neil Tenannt chatted about awful Ibiza music and the like.......
Scott <[email protected]>
England - Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 16:30:05 (PDT)
Rather than being a "stupid old closet", as Mr. George refers to him, perhaps Moz is simply someone who refuses to play by the conventional rules when it comes to sexuality. Our Steven may be gay as hell, but the fact that he doesn't feel the need to broadcast his every sexual impulse on a worldwide scale is commendable--he himself has commented in interviews that sexual labels do nothing but cripple people. That aside, Morrissey's "closet" is smart business as a pop star: look at the latest non-declarative, one Ricky Martin. Ten million and counting.
Hellworthy
- Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 20:02:24 (PDT)
Break4Love-
I don't think that's true because one of my friends is friends with Tom Petty's daughter and I asked her to ask Tom if he has ever met Morrissey and Tom said, "Who's Morrissey?"
Jae
- Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 20:11:40 (PDT)
The world's Moz's closet. He doesn't believe in sexual prefixes, remember?? So where's there to come out to? And although sexual reports/surveys tend to be highly skeptical based on participants usual lack of honesty, I have read that it is estimated that no more than, i think, 2-3% of the population is entirely homo- or heterosexual.
Gay morrissey fans love to speculate the singer's gayness/coming out of the closet and straight morrissey fans use just that fact as defense. My bet--he's probably a eunuch. Doesn't explain him being a baritone, though...
Jeff
- Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 22:04:11 (PDT)
Can't I be in the closet with moz and still despise homophobia???????? Just because I am not a drag queen doesn't mean that I go out gay bashing!
Iamawas <[email protected]>
- Sat, Jul 10, 1999 at 01:06:46 (PDT)
Iamawas:
Homophobia: Fear of homosexuality.
"In the closet": Why? Obviously afraid of SOMETHING, whether it's people's reactions, etc.
Click the link to my website, by the way, and you'll see I'm FAR from a drag queen.
John tha...well, you know
- Sat, Jul 10, 1999 at 08:43:26 (PDT)
Erm...try this one.
Whoops.
John tha...well, you know
- Sat, Jul 10, 1999 at 08:45:32 (PDT)
ok...the final word jon.......
my profile says that I despise homophobes......... what I meant by that was the people that hate gays..... I don't like to be around them.... even if I meant that I was afraid of "gayness" who is to say that boy george is "gayer" than morrissey????? in any case....if and when I come out, I am sure that I will be more like morrissey than the ultra drag queen boy george......besides.... Pete Burns did it much better anyway........
Iamawas <[email protected]>
- Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 01:38:36 (PDT)
john....your website and my browser don't mix, kinda like Moz and Boy, as I can't read anything...........
Iamawas <[email protected]>
- Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 01:41:17 (PDT)
Who cares! Wow this seem like one of those fights in third grade! Lets all chill out and drink tea! Well I've never met Morrissey but he seems a bit quiet and well Boy George well his a big fruit but he is way cool! But who Cares! I wonder what George Micheal thinks of Morrissey? oh well what do I know Im just a degenerate teenager!
Anna Serrano <[email protected]>
El Paso aka El Hell Hole, TX - Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 18:40:19 (PDT)
Hello Jae
I greatly appreciate your providing me with that information. The story didn't sound right to me either. However, if someone asked Morrissey who Tom Petty is; I'm sure both Morrissey and Boy George would say "One of Rock Music's greatest."
Thanks again.
P.S. I wonder if they find Mr. Petty attractive?
Break4Love
- Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 20:47:53 (PDT)
Iamawas:
As a fellow AOLer, I can totally understand why AOL's @#!!!ty browser doesn't support a site that was CREATED ON AOL IN THE FIRST PLACE! :)
Gotta love it. As far as "coming out," I totally agree it's done in one's own time, in one's own way. However, there is something profoundly sad about a 40-ish old man who's still afraid to come out, isn't there?
Peace,
John
John tha...well, you know
- Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 08:14:28 (PDT)
i'd like to jam a railroad spike into B. George's forehead. What a moron.
amici persempre
- Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 20:02:53 (PDT)
Why is it that when someone criticises Morrissey it always makes me like the critic less and love Morrissey more? Is that sad or dangerously mad or just normal?
alistair <[email protected]>
uk - Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 04:55:23 (PDT) | #47
I don't know whether he should come out, everyone knows anyway and he doesn't really have to confirm it a la Stipe or Neil Tennant, I dunno if he's afraid but it is pretty sad if he is, older gay men are so dirty anyway - lol. But if you think about it, the smart ones stay in the closet - Michael Stipe(although he recently "revealed" he slept with both men and women - never!) Jodie Foster and Moz, am I being too litiguous lol. If he did come out it could be tacky and he'd be the um, butt of jokes(if he isn't already to unfunny idiots like Manson) like Ron Davies, George Michael and Stephen Gatley - although they were all forced out of the closet and that would be terrible, if he decides to do it himself then it'd have to be dignified.
John <[email protected]>
Glasgow, Scotland - Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 06:41:15 (PDT) | #48
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